Official thread: ‘Get Britain Working’ White Paper released Tuesday 26th November
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My husband has just had a huge diabetic hypo due to stress this has to stop
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I'm backing off the forum as at the moment we are going through too much.
We are having a really bad time like everyone.
Sometimes it's not very helpful to us. I looked to it for help and advice now it's become stressful.
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They keep saying September 2025 will start also I feel thier rushing uc as we sign a contract to say we will engage is that correct
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I am so so sorry you have been through so much I'd be on my knees hopefully they get the checks done fast and leave you alone in peace that you deserve and need I'm putting it to the universe that this will be resolved ASAP much love
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Me too I wish you all the best
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lizptsd, community scope has deleted my clumsy comments this morning as requested. They are great like that. I'm also in my 60's though not a pensioner.
I'd forgotten that you've written about losing your son to suicide last year because of the DWP. It's an unimaginable loss and I hope you can forgive me. I'll understand if you can't though.
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Hi @Tumilty. I'm so sorry that you're struggling so much at the minute. I've sent you an email, can you look out for it please?
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I did some reading on the website and they are actually open to all disabilities/ health conditions not just autism (my condition isn't actually autism based). Also you don't need to have a formal diagnosis.
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Oh OK I will look into this thankyou very much
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They shouldn't be allowed to get away with it, it feels like the distance between us and them is a million miles, like we are here posting away about our worries and concerns and they know nothing about it.
If the government are engaged with Scope then they should be asked to view this forum and this thread to at least see the impact on people's lives if not we banging our heads on the wall.
Yes I agree about Stride, vile specimen.
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they should be asked to view this forum
I've always assumed that they do.
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The same week Stride was making comments about mental health in the paper, he was going around to Schools, in support of Mental Health, and talking about mental health. He is a really a 2 faced cretin
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^Now he's in the opposition, he would be more sympathetic towards mental health than he was when the Tories were in power. Hopefully he'll realise mental health is more than being "bluesy". God forbid if the Tories get in power again, he'll revert back to his original viewpoint.
Horrible man!
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The government has money for expensive useless weapons and Microsoft, but no money for disabled people. Shame and shame.
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Plus sending millions abroad to farmers , and other stuff. Also millions for carbon capture in Liverpool, why don't they stop cutting down trees and plant new ones
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I had a reply back from the D.W.P today, 28/11/24 regarding the W.C.A , I was asked to reply to an email address on Scope but can't find it do have put it on Albus_Scope so he can read it, and others too!
LETTER:
Dear X
Thank you for your email of 1 November to the Secretary of State about the Work
Capability Assessment. Government Ministers receive a large volume of
correspondence and they are unable to reply personally on every occasion. I have
been asked to respond.
The Government believes the Work Capability Assessment is not working and
needs to be reformed or replaced. We will say more about this in due course.
I can assure you that this Government is committed to championing the rights of
disabled people and to the principle of working with them. We will continue to
engage with stakeholders to keep the views of disabled people and people with
health conditions at the heart of what we do, as we consider our next steps.
The new Government is very concerned at the undermining of the social security
safety net, which has occurred over the past fourteen years. Its aim is to make the
system fit for purpose in the course of the decade of national renewal, which the
Prime Minister has committed to.
Yours sincerely
Adrian Nicol
Head of the Ministerial Correspondence Team3 -
planting trees is ok if looked after i see in the dorset town that was inspired by our own king has trees along the roads blighting the street lights and forcing people to use more electric to light there houses during the day i feel if people had as much common sense as they do brains life could be much easier
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I never had a problem with wca also no mention of pip going to hit us with wca changes then few months later pip the life instantly felt worse since labour got it survived Conservatives never thought labour would be so never
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Hello @charlie72. To protect your identity, I've removed the PDF and copied the text from the letter into your comment instead, as the PDF contained your personal email address.
Thank you for taking the time to share it with us.
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I got to say I’m having to say I’m having to take more and more time outs from the scope forum (and many disability commentators on social media) who are scaremongering and refusing to look at the bigger picture - that compromise will be needed and we’re need to pick our priorities carefully
you know what’s keeping me up at night right now? - that we are charging towards a kemikaze/stride far right Tory gov as of now (who honestly make sunak/stride look like domestic cats in comparison)
You all must of noticed the increase of far right media, commentators and a increasing amount of the general public stepping up their (yes uneducated, but it’s hard to learn if your foaming at the mouth in blind anger) attacks on welfare claimants and disabled ppl as an extension - gov targeting disability payments in the past has be described as ‘red meat’ policies in the past which is a good description as many of the public think/act like carnivorous animals when angered and the logic is ‘feeding them red meat’ will have a calming effect.
I’ve noticed the past few years more and more people openly supporting society moving towards a more eugenic ideology (the survival of the fittest viewpoint) - in around the next 24 hours uk society could be one step closer to that worrying vision depending on the opinion of 650 individuals!
There is not enough financial help available for the uk disabled population - I’m not disputing that………but the uk is not in the financial position to provide the extra funds (at least with zero attached conditions) and that’s before you include those who try (and succeed) to game the system via lying or exaggerating their health or disability. And as much as I hate admitting it more likely than not red meat policies (that leaves a bad taste in the mouth, leaves ppl in poverty and prematurely ends lives) in black & white terms does save the government money (gotten from general public taxes) as many disabled are only able to take money from the state but not contribute anything back.
On paper (when thinking only in black and white economic terms) ‘red meat’ policies to address the sharply increasing benefit bill is the ‘easy’ option - it satisfies certain quarters of the general public and will save significant coin (and it’s easy to close ears to suffering disabled) - on past quite recent quotes I think both kemikaze & stride would carry out this ideology (and probably on steroids)
Right now labour are being very hard to read - both starmer and Kendall have used some pretty appalling language towards the disabled the past few months - however when reading the white paper I don’t get (what some people are saying) that labour are just slightly sugar coating past very recent Tory ideas (and prehaps upcoming welfare reforms will prove that to be true) but I personally didn’t read it that way…….. it needs a lot of work and input from all areas of the disabled community but I see it as potentially a first draft of some ideas that could have positive outcomes for both disabled community and the state
But labour need time, cooperation and compromise (and for all sides to be realistic)to have any chance of improving things for all parties - labour aren’t taking the obvious red meat approach yet (but I fear if the disabled community keeps on jumping too conclusions and attacking them on decisions that have clearly not been made or finalised - they may conclude that it’s too much effect/money to try and make disabled community happy and they should just take the easy option and go on full on red meat)
Using one of my analogies- essentially labour need to figure out the way to offer this increasingly large amount aggressive welfare/disable claimant hater quarter of the public a very convincing ‘red meat substitute’ but they can’t achieve that without disabled and welfare claimant cooperation and both sides needs to give something to get back!4
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