Official thread: ‘Get Britain Working’ White Paper released Tuesday 26th November
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"Doesn't it say if you can work you must […]"This isn't a binary on / off thing.
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I will read through, screenshot and highlight later this evening
I’m away from the internet till about 7pm till now
try not to jump to conclusions from far right media (who write these to get a reaction and are happy to portray disabled in a bad way)Sorry I can’t tackle this now……….i fear seeing this thread in premature meltdown by the time I get back
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Screenshots from YouTube with a us web address………****
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Just finished reading the white paper. These are the most relevant passages for those with mental health conditions i believe.
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My thoughts
I’ve had a read through and amazingly I’m not distressed so it can’t be too horrendous. Mostly it centres on providing support into work, reforming job centres, fixing the NHS. They are to publish a green paper (consultation paper) in the spring to ask disabled people and organisations for their views on reforming disability benefits. They have promised to listen. So, it’ll be a long process before any changes to benefits happen and we will be able to have our say
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So states will help support people with severe MH so my question is Thier handing to job centre councils so say someone with severe mental health harmself or others whilst in workplace who will be liable also will the MR system still be on place
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I don't understand how they say people with severe mental illnesses into work some people just can't ie myself and loads of us would like to see reassurance but only see work
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What I think they are trying to do is to get away of the one size fits all approach, and try and be more flexible in dealing with people, and trying to treat people better than they have been in the past.
I definitely think the job centre does need reforming, it's too centralised, and doesn't take people's needs or circumstances into account, and that's what they said.
The employment minister was on TV this morning saying, don't attack or blame people with mental health issues, it's work that should change, and not people.
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Oh OK thanks
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My opinion, which isn't fact is that many of these reforms will target future incapacity benefit claimants.
Again I have a real problem with this trivializing mental illness. Those people who trivialize it should push for psychiatry to be easily available. Here in Cornwall to obtain psychiatry on the NHS is very rare.
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I agree thier even saying people with severe mental health will be helped into work my question is who would be responsible if someone hurt themselves or anyone else ? I don't trust a word they say to be honest and talking therapies is 6 sessions saying why don't you paint your room also are they waiting to see how goes with ellen clifford
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I'd honestly try not to worry too much about how they've worded things @Catherine21 as they've said before "those that can work, should" and some people with severe mental health issues just wont be able to and they'll know that.
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What does it mean by voluntary employment in this white paper?
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anything worth knowing in it?
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look out for a consultation on disability benefits in the spring
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just spent 45 minutes going over it. reading between the lines my take aways are.
They want to give quicker and easier access to financial help without such burden of sickness proof.
want to wind down punishments in exchange for offering voluntary participation in schemes and engaging.
are launching a consultation green paper in the spring where they are prepared to listen to both us and charities etc before marching on like! the other lot.
Overhaul jcp so instead of being on people's backs they actually constructively offer help and the plan is to build trust and shake off the fear and damage of the present system.
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Meaning something along the lines, you will be supported by the DWP or something along the lines in a volunteer role at a Charity Shop or something.
I think it's aimed at those who would struggle in a normal workplace environment and would thrive in a low pressure environment.
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I also saw that they want to remove the stigma of the job centre, and want it to make it a place where people can be supported, rather than be ashamed in going there and fearing the worst.
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Voluntary would be better because some days I don't know day to day what I be like. Because I'm going to get worse , and a work place I won't be able to cope
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I think that is what the intention is, to try and give the disabled who want a chance, to work in an environment where they can thrive and there isn't much pressure and if they want to go into a normal full time job IF they want to, then DWP or whoever would support them too.
I think it's about giving disabled people an opportunity and a chance.
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