Autistic experiences of Christianity

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  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 2,057 Championing

    I sincerely respect your view; however, I disagree with the assertion that global conflicts stem solely from religious beliefs, especially when these views are dismissed as 'fantasies.' This is a gross oversimplification of complex geopolitical issues. To reduce such conflicts to mere religious fantasies ignores the political, economic, and social factors at play.

    Furthermore, excluding religious perspectives from disability discussions is counterproductive. Many faith-based organisations have a long and valuable history of supporting and advocating for vulnerable groups, people with disabilities, and the socially disadvantaged.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,482 Championing
    edited February 2025

    This is a gross oversimplification of complex geopolitical issues. 

    all justified through religious dogma!

    This discussion is focused on 'autistics' though and not disability. That's my objection here.

  • MsR
    MsR Online Community Member Posts: 91 Empowering

    They mean the same I think. What I went for is adverstised as a Hospital Chaplain volunteer but when I read the description it sounds pretty much the same as a Pastoral visitor. I was also told at first meet on Monday that it was pretty much the same. May be it is better being called a pastoral visitor for clarity. I have looked on line and this is some trusts call it one or the other.

  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 339 Empowering

    What else do you enjoy talking/learning about?

  • MsR
    MsR Online Community Member Posts: 91 Empowering

    This thread is now being trolled. I started it for those who may have an interest in learning more about Christanity and for those who are Christians. I don't care if reasonabe debate is had. I am not here to be insulted, Perhaps you are not familiar with the Gifts of the Holy Spirit in the New Testament-Gifts given to Christians usually after Baptism. This in the Bible and I will not debate this with you (1 Corithians 12 (1-30). I do not open threads I have no interest in, but that is me. Why not a general thread on religion if you so have much interest in, it is not in good practise to take over this thread.

    Regards to another question by another poster. I do particularly at this point in time wish to discuss about my interests. Believe I have them and am aware of how to use a forum.

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,423 Championing

    @Ranald please remind yourself of the House Rules. Remember to be civil and supportive.

  • bookrabbit
    bookrabbit Online Community Member Posts: 274 Pioneering

    Christianity has caused a huge amount of damage to my life because my mother and sister became Christians and because I cannot force myself to accept such a patently ridiculous set of assertions they decided that I am evil and threw me out and made me homeless. Christians only want to help people who are willing to be taken in by their rubbish or at least pretend to do so. I even tried a thought experiment of accepting it and trying it out but I am just not capable of that level of self deception and so I am not worthy of help.

    Not what you wanted but it's what you asked for. autistic experiences of Christianity. Christians would literally turn their back on me when they discovered I wasn't a member of the club. The club that causes so much division and strife in the world!! I would never discriminate against a Christian because they are Christians but not so the other way around.

  • MsR
    MsR Online Community Member Posts: 91 Empowering

    bookrabbit clearly you experienced a painful situation there for you. I do think it is normal to set aside family members because they have the same faith as you. Faith is a personal thing and you seek out information and then it is up to decide to do what you want to do. If you want it to, I hope the situation with your family can be resolved.

    I myself have had experiences as well with others not understanding that having some conditions doesn't mean you cannot have your faith and it doesn't you need healing or that other forces are using you. I carve and set out my own relationship with my faith which is the only thing that keeps me going.

    The experiences I referred to I think was the links I posted to other autistic people who are Christians their journey if others chose to look at some. I wasn't referring to peoples personal experiences on the forum.

    I communicate with people who are not Christians as well. For me though I have to be careful with what I see and hear.

    Moving on-I may be starting a new job soon. I may be called into a position to give myself to others and really I need to be calm to do this and to serve them properly and not be diverted by uncessary things.

  • MsR
    MsR Online Community Member Posts: 91 Empowering

    I meant above in what I wrote to brookrabbit that I do not think it is normal to set aside family members for not having the same faith as you.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,482 Championing
    edited February 2025

    You are posting links to American websites and keep referring to "some autistics" 🙄

    We are sharing our autistic experiences of Christianity on a thread entitled Autistic experiences of Christianity

    Why not a general thread on religion if you so have much interest in, it is not in good practise to take over this thread.

    He doesn't. This is the only one of its kind on this forum. Ranald engages in a variety of topics with intelligence and wit. We all know where to read religious text, if we wish to.

    Religion is divisive (and nothing to do with autism!)

    What else do you enjoy talking/learning about?

  • MsR
    MsR Online Community Member Posts: 91 Empowering

    WhatThe

    You have made it very clear you have no interest in Christanity and I respect that. You have also apparently have no interest in religion either so on that matter in this thread I don't see a scope for dialogue. There is potential of most things to be used positivily or negatively s in this world.

    Some autistics as clearly it does not pertain to all, how more transparent does it need to be.

    The Premier Christian website where some of the autistic stories came from I would thought was a UK website. Whether you are American or reside in the UK I wouldn't imagine it really matters in regards to Autism and faith.

    This thread as I have stated was titled Autistic experiences of Christanity regarding the stories of autistic people who are Christian their experiences of it. It seems like sometimes like some people are looking to be combative.

    As I have written there is a long old school of thought that autistics cannot get religion. There is new information out there that goes against this.

    People are free to do they want. That includes me if I want to have a thread for people interested and a space for other Christians as well. I am not sure why you need to know about my personal life.

  • MsR
    MsR Online Community Member Posts: 91 Empowering

    Let's say a vegetarian opened a thread which was taken over by meat eaters. What is the point in that.

    I don't think really I have really given any personal views as such. A lot of the debate now is a general bash on religion which it go in that direction, but not one I partake in.

    It is so easy to start another thread.

    I see some people editing and I would have liked to have added the stories new ones to the original post.

    I used to like opening the thread and reading, I don't get joy out of entering flame worthy debates.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,482 Championing

    Whether you are American or reside in the UK I wouldn't imagine it really matters in regards to Autism and faith.

    There is no connection between Autism and faith and I have no interest whatsoever in your personal life. I do have autistic experiences of Christianity though which is why I commented on this thread.

    It does matter. Religious extremism is rife over there. We live in a very dangerous world..

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,482 Championing
    edited February 2025

    As I have written there is a long old school of thought that autistics cannot get religion. There is new information out there that goes against this.

    What ???

    😠

  • MsR
    MsR Online Community Member Posts: 91 Empowering

    WbatThe I have not used the words that there is a connection between autism and faith. So where you get this from I have no idea and I have replied about this previously to your question. I already discussed as well about theory of mind and religion where is concerned. You can research that more if you care to from the research that has been provided.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,482 Championing

    Scope, please…? 🤪

  • MsR
    MsR Online Community Member Posts: 91 Empowering

    I am diagnosed with autism and have several level 2 needs as I wrote in my first post. May be some people should read it again. I spent a bit of time before I made the post reading the forum. I am not a very wordly person and don't do chat very well and have very limited restricted intersts as part of my autism and that is how I am as well. I have also have level 2 communication needs as well. I am not so chatty like some people on here it seems. I do like some aspects of nature and have my own Youtube channel for that. I have had other intersts to in my life. I am not a child, so some of these interests have stalled like collecting fun t-shirts. I have outgrown that. My faith for me is the most important in my life and my family as well.

    I wrote this before-I didn't really expect anyone to post from observing the forum, and thought the first post may just stand to read the stories if anyone was interested and when others replied I thought perhaps there was some potential for this thread to be a support thread for other Christians as well and potentially those who may have questions as well who were interested. I didn't perceive any of this how it got derailed to me. I haven't experieced this on other autistic forums, but was looking after a while to have a conversation with those who I had not encountered on this forum and their take.

    I started being perhaps being too text based and then loosened up to fit the forum which directed me which was helpful. After the difficult experiences for me I was just use it for the sharing of important information and didn't express about my own needs and difficulties here much beyond scripture because of the hostile environment.

    Some people can very different online to they are offline and I am not like that at all and don't really get it.

    I have had a look at those who I linked and the Premeir is in the UK and most people were actually from the UK and a further two stories were posted and that is fine as well.

    I will say I do like this article from Premier as well. None of the people were autistic but they all have their own challenges and are disabled as well. Some of their take on things I do like and one of them has their own supportive page on Youtube as well.

    https://www.premierchristianity.com/features/fearfully-and-wonderfully-made-5-disabled-christians-share-their-stories/14946.article

    Good luck everybody with your life.

  • durhamjaide2001
    durhamjaide2001 Scope Member Posts: 15,455 Championing

    Congratulations everyone for getting to page 5 on this thread. It looks like an engaging conservation. Well done to @MsR for being the first person to post on page 5

  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 339 Empowering
  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 2,057 Championing

    While emojis offer a quick way to express ourselves, especially for those who prefer visual communication, they can sometimes be misinterpreted. Emojis like 🤣 can seem dismissive or hurtful on serious posts, especially those about personal experiences or faith, and can verge on bullying.

    Let's aim for clear, respectful dialogue, being mindful of how our messages might be received, and create a more inclusive, supportive space for all members, including those following along.

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