The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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But if they legislate the damn 4ts in PIP in this session, we're done, as assessment will be based on this.
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So a estimated 600,000 of us on LCWRA but not PIP will be dropped like a sack of hot potatoes and recieve no health element money and suddenly be expected to look for work despite being put into the previously unfit for work "support group".
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Is this is the article you were thinking about? :
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just thought I’d add this here incase anyone hasn’t seen it. Atleast two years fight back have said
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I know but it won’t come into effect until nov 2026
A lot can happen till then
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Under the new proposals, the eligiability criteria will be tightened by November 2026 to apply for PIP, so it might be worth trying to apply before 2026.
Sorry if most of you know this but I just want to clarify about PIP (as I didn't know this for years): You CAN have PIP alongside other benefits including UC/ESA, it's not means tested (so doesn't matter how much money or savings you have/don't have) and you can get it in or out of work. It can also increase the amount of UC/ESA you currently get.
With this in mind I've compiled a (hopefully) useful, short guide about PIP and applying for it covering the whole process. I know it's an often terriying process for people. I've only been through it once so far in late 2023/2024.
Would it be OK to post the guide in the forum? Would anyone find it helpful to have that? I don't want to bombared people with info and clog up the forum.
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That's cruelty at its finest.
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That's absolutely mental. So is it that you can't get Health Element money if you don't have PIP?
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I just remember seeing something in a paper, though can't remember which, when they first brought in the light touch awards and it said that 10 year awards will have light touch reviews. It definitely said that, but papers don't always get things right. Since then I've assumed that is what it is, but now I am thinking it may not be. Does an "ongoing" award mean you never have to be assessed again? This is all so confusing and stressful.
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Please go ahead and post them. I look forward to reading them with many thanks.
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Yes and also at the same time they are making it harder to qualify for the PIP award…barbaric
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They are going after mental health because they realise this country has made too many people unable to function. They are basically going to say mental health was a trend and now everyone is better.
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If you have 4 points now it appears you will be okay until your award ends, but then you are going to have to get 4 points again when reassessed which as you say will probably craftily be downgraded.
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Yes but i am on it for long standing ME Syndrome, i would imagine the bulk of the 600,000 on LCWRA are on it for reasons that are not related to mental health but still everyone is going to be caught up in this and suffer.
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Not if nobody does anything. Action needs to be taken instead of a few statements here and there that achieves nothing otherwise this will happen. If it does this country will be a third world country and very quickly will decline economically. It is a very stupid thing.
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That would be great, I'd find it helpful.
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Thank you for this. It really helps to know there are others fighting our corner.
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That is what I'm terrified of.
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I'm not answering it the way they want me to or answering the questions they have asked . I'm just writing what I want to say in the boxes and making it perfectly clear that the 4 point pip rule will be disastrous and lives will be lost if the decision goes ahead .
And when they ask what support they can offer someone after they have cruelty ripped away all their money and carers away etc I am putting that there is no support they can offer as people need financial support
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Yes and I'm sure we will ! if there were deposits going in our accounts of several thousands then yes I can understand they would ask questions but what we spend our money on is our business
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