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The new reforms of combining PIP and LCWRA is the most stupid thing I have ever seen from a government. Firstly it doesn't make sense because PIP is NOT a disability benefit but a add on for those that need aid with their independence living with disability. SECONDLY EVERYONE on LCWRA should be technically getting some sort of support from PIP because LCWRA! is the disability benefit. And now they are combining both, how do they know how many of those on LCWRA alone also meet requirement for PIP but are not claiming because they didn't know or were to scared before.
You could have a situation where people are getting even more money than before and government losing out because they have not anticipated how many people actually meet the requirement for PIP and are not claiming it.
Exactly how many people are they planning on removing from benefits? Because if the number is half of the people, then the other half will receive PIP and it it won't make a difference. They will still be spending around the same. It is the most stupid thing I have ever heard of.
Also they have now by advertising the reforms on national television on every platform made sure MORE PEOPLE will now know about disability benefit AND WILL APPLY. It is the most stupid thing I have ever seen and doesn't not make sense at all.
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Has he ever said he worked for DWP ?
Interesting to know and at what level.
I know he regularly says he knows folk who work for them and they email him,
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But if I hadn't I would have been prosecuted for fraud
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I know it can be confusing, I was the same until I looked into it, it can be even more confusing when stressed out, tired, conflicting comments on here, and in the media. The bottom line is, YES these reforms can be pushed through and fast tracked into legistation, but can still be challenged if deemed to discriminate or breach our human rights, which they no doubt do.
There could be a judicial review if it's passed (unlikely) which would delay it again by months or over a year until heard in court. It could go to the High court, or supreme court of appeal, which could delay by years, which in that time unlikely Labour will be voted in again. Other political parties like maybe Reform or Tories would no doubt have their own welfare reforms, but the same thing would happen again with appeals etc.
Beleive me, there is a long way to go yet, I know we are all in mass panic and under loads of stress, wondering what's going on behind the scenes, if we're being listetend to!! I can assure you we have plenty of support from lots of people who are looking at ways to defeat these cuts, or delay them from happening.
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Also people will lose their carers allowance if they look after someone who doesn't get those 4 points and this evil government have already worked that one out.
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This was supposed to be the case. My paper assessment was handled by a neurology CNS. When I completed my form, i stated that I took it for granted that I would be assessed by a HCP was experience and expertise in the field. This indicated that I'd fight on and win if the assessment went against me.
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You're so right. I've long been convinced that the shift from DLA to PIP served as an advertisement and is at least in part responsible for the rise in claimants.
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most abled British people simply don't want to do bricklaying and similar manual jobs. The pay is ****, they offer minimal career progression. Moreover, manual labour jobs will wreck people's bodies and force an early retirement (and given governments keep raising the retirement age, effectively forces people into destitution in their middle age).
The only way ableds, especially British people, will take up apprenticeships like bricklaying is through abuse and coercion.
Stellar, brickies earn a small fortune!!
I don't understand what's so special about British people nor what's wrong with learning a trade? I did and I still have great muscles thank you 💪
I wish I'd been encouraged to take up an apprenticeship straight from school. I wish I hadn't listened to this sort of attitude from my parents.
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when we first went over to pip I had all Drs letters including my specialist. Zero points . Plus they tend to downgrade 4 point questions to 2 points . It doesn’t help that I gave invisible conditions ME and fibromyalgia. I even submitted a letter from GP stating my prognosis is not good . Assessor just ignored all letters
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I think I remember him saying he was working in fraud , he knows a lot about pip
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I've been having a down day with the benefits cuts today. It's just progressively making me feel so helpless. I've emailed my MP (who is thankfully supportive) and waiting for her response. She did email me a few days ago unprompted expressing her support. I've also written to some articles about it. Just feel this impending doom
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“I worked very hard in a professional career and paid into the system yet now I am viewed as a useless waste of space nobody in society.”- @luvpink , Sadly,this is exactly how I and the rest are made to feel. I empathise with you🤗
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Sadly, the social model of disability, often propounded by disabled people and disability charities, enables this political outlook. Disabled people and charities have blamed employers and infrastructure, etc for not working. Thus, governments can focus on "breaking down barriers". But for the most disabled it is the condition itself that is a unremoveable barrier to work.
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Don't apologise. Take as much rest as you need.
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