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  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,383 Championing

    I'll gladly do a full time job, pity no employers want to hire me; what to do, what to do!

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,871 Championing
  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,383 Championing

    Why do we need protection from having to work?

    Surely we should all work if there is appropriate work needing doing, and adjustments have been made to allow us to work. There isn't, and that is the problem!

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,296 Championing

    Thank you for the clarification. I just wanted to note that the phrase used in your original post I responded to, “on the payroll”, can be easily misunderstood without context. It implies that PPS’s are paid for the role, when in fact they are not. That is a common misconception.

    I was not being pedantic about your wording, but I do think clarity is important, particularly in forum discussions where not everyone is familiar with the finer points of parliamentary roles or terminology. I was genuinely pleased to see the correct terminology acknowledged regarding PPSs being unpaid. As you can see, this is an area where confusion often arises, especially in relation to how these roles intersect with government votes.

    Also, just to clarify, my previous post you have slightly misquoted. I did not say PPSs are required to resign. I said that some have chosen to step down, which is a different point and worth keeping accurate.

    The example you gave of Whips involves a different situation, as they are salaried government officials. If they plan to vote against the government, they must resign from that paid role. PPSs, being unpaid, simply step aside. It is a structural distinction, and one that is important to get right.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,383 Championing

    Don't worry, Tice has to sleep in the same bed as Isobel Oakeshott.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,383 Championing

    Watch any politics programme and the phrase on the payroll is used. I think I can be let off, quite frankly.

  • geckobat
    geckobat Online Community Member Posts: 121 Empowering
  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 2,269 Trailblazing

    Yes. We should all work if we are able. Who on earth would choose to live on a pittance rather than pursue a worthwhile career path? But some of us are simply too disabled/ I'll for adjustments to be worth a jot. I think back 30 years and the supposed "dot com" revolution. Yet as I found, the bigger the online company the bigger the HQ. Work from home has only been possible for a minority outside of the pandemic. Even that would be top much for me now. I went out for an hour this morning. I've been sleeping or in my chair ever since.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,383 Championing

    I agree, it's a nonsense for them to pretend there are opportunities out there for us. I just wanted to make my opinion clear that we are emailing our MPs, to protect our vital income, not as a way to avoid working.

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 275 Championing

    If I ever, I mean ever have a Reform or a Tory or a Labour canvasser or representative at this door my mother will give them a piece of her mind and I might get the courage to verbally put them in touch also.

    I would love to see that cretin Richard Tice be on 70 pounds a week living in a council estate, not using BUPA and having to rely on the NHS, you know he cheated on his wife with Isabel Oakshott? that's the kind of man he is. Why should this country listen to a word he has to say? Please tell me.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 590 Championing

    This is the kind of question for which they haven't got any answer. All they know is to parrot their monotonic collection of selective words. They don't want to address the real problems.

    Will cutting your benefits get you into work? Absolutely not.

    If they had a shred of honesty, they would've taken lessons from Nordic countries and the Netherlands, where work coaches actively search for work for claimants and personally liaise with employers and secure jobs for people with certain barriers, rather than hassling claimants and parroting CV writing and job interview preparation, without even realising that there's a wide array of CV templates of all fields widely available free of charge on the internet, and tantamount of valuable job interview preparation tutorials on YouTube and similar platforms.

    Work coaches in the UK need to get real jobs for themselves. Work coaches and debt enforcement agents are the most hated people in the UK. At least debt collectors are hated not personally but because they're duty-bound. While work coaches are hated due to their personal behaviour, as most of them are a bunch idiots who forget that they were unemployed themselves prior to their job.

    They used to be called job advisors, but they're now called work coaches, as every government comes with new names. For example: Incapacity Benefit →>Support Group -> LCWRA →>Health Element.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,383 Championing

    Absolutely no clue, but remember, some find Farage and Oaf Johnson 'charismatic'! The mind boggles.

  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Online Community Member Posts: 164 Empowering

    Starmer and Rayner be gone by September

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,383 Championing
  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,296 Championing

    If the press coined it, who am I to argue? I believe the essential distinctions have been clarified between us, thank you for the courteous exchange.

  • Fuzzy200
    Fuzzy200 Online Community Member Posts: 39 Contributor

    I think to Conservatives want to target anyone who suffers from stress, autism ect. This makes for grim reading.

    https://news.sky.com/story/politics-latest-starmer-assisted-dying-trump-israel-iran-labour-12593360

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  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 275 Championing

    The Tories want Starmer to cut even harder and if Reform had their way there wouldn't be a welfare state.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,698 Championing

    OOh She can do one she will be gone and yh the one after her will say the same let's bash the disabled last year Rwanda this year elderly disabled next year the aliens from other space parking thier UFOS and have to have parking permits then year after that be legal to marry Artificial intelligence as they have rights too My advice for all politicians apart from the good ones is Go to Bed best place for you Bore off gives them importance change the recordbeen following the same scare tactics for centuries haven't exactly evolved have they

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,698 Championing

    Loads this week Mr timms the star

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  • geckobat
    geckobat Online Community Member Posts: 121 Empowering

    So Kemi's answer to 'people want change' is more of the same awful decisions only worse than before.