Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.
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Yes, the verify ID comes after you submit. Once you submit you’ll have access to your journal and can request a phone call if you can’t verify online. It’ll come up that they’ll phone you in 2-3 days but they don’t! I just got a message to say my biographical phone call had been booked
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Seems so two weeks ago they been blinding us ahock horror and the conssessions he mentioned once bill passes there's no legal status if he wants to change back to all claimants and what was that all about with meg hillier was it a set up was she personally angry with starmer and showing her authority it's a mess all of this and we have to suffer he's always planned this we lost a week pushing back listening to more lies I don't know how many mps still against this can't find but they definitely cannot be trusted they have the back hander
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Yh I've emailed the speaker three times asking him to reject it gave reasons why maybe good if more people emailed him with I concerns alot of them
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People on this forum give helpful advice and support, as they do on Benefits &Work. Many legitimate Disabled Sites and charities do, thank god. Explaining things clearly is not helping others to cheat the system.
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Quick question.. how many letters should you send with your first pip claim?
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This part of the reason why we need PIP
And you guessed it - perhaps boring repetitive but true - KEEP GOING CAMPAIGNING. KEEP ON TRUCKING
We Buddhists say a mantra
''Extend the Vajra wall of determination…'
Google it for the full quote and education- mediation. Vajra is a symbol of sheer spitual and political determination, as long as the politics is done like Gandhi or Mandela or the Dalai Lama, with love, rigour persuasion, non-aggression.
We can still win compassion by objecting through your MP
(Please Google''FindyourMP UK''
I want to THANK everyone in SCOPE from the bottom of my mind-heart for
their sheer courage, solidarity, love, companionship, determination, for recovering time and again, for beating themselves up less via internalised oppressions, for being wonderful marvellous human beings, for growing and developing through this campaign, for not taking no for an answer, for wielding together a force for good, for working out disagreements with peace and love, for their compassion, wisdom, for not giving up on each other, and so much more.
You are all bigger, better, stronger wiser than you know
So… keep campaigning, meanwhile transforming any barriers to bridges.
Summer heat waves
Greenhouse gases.
War and fascists. Iran and USA Ukraine and Putin
Yet hope still blooms
For the human potential mind
For he one who meditates
on glass half full.
who refuse cynicism under the cloud of sufferings.
Did you know wise compassion is all.
Everything good in life To transform human strife. Yes, friends, make of your mind-heart, great art of mind creative, not mind reactive. Cultivate the flowers the joy the freedom
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Hi @Danny123 gosh, that's a scary thought. I'd probably give myself a day before I was removed from my position. 😅
I'm so sorry this is causing you so much distress and I wish I had some more answers on everything. I'm sure we all do. It's been a long period of constant focus and discussion everywhere (especially the media), and for those who will be impacted, it's been absolutely awful.
I believe the Governments intention is to eventually remove the WCA and replace this with a PIP assessment, but we don't know for sure exactly what will be agreed and implemented yet unfortunately. I appreciate it's terrible being in limbo at the minute. I can advise you to try to distract yourself, but I know sometimes that's easier said than done.
I will say though, seeing how in the past week so many MP's have taken a stand, and witnessing how swiftly things some decisions have turned gives me hope. All the work the community and ally's are doing is really making an impact so that's something positive to focus on.
I expect next week's going to be much like this week, if not more intense so please reach out if you need anything. We're a wonderful community and will support each other through this.
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And there we have it ''Any concessions we might make'' so many of these little gems sprinkled throughout many documents need clarification, might is not will.
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Hi @secretsquirrel1 - I can only presume the longer form (PIP2) dated Jan 2021 is the 'How your disability affects you' claim form, tho when I checked this is only 50pp long:
As far as review forms go, the AR1 forms, then a new one came out in Nov 2024. You can tell if you've received this one as it will have 11/24 at the bottom of each page as can be seen here:
What has happened tho to a few of our members is that they've received the PIP2 form when up for review, so I think this may be what you've heard.
There's also an AR2 form, the so-called 'light touch' PIP review form which is only 6pp long:
[Sorry, I can't find an example of the earlier AR1 form, but this was shorter than the 'new' one, which has 25pp. That one somewhat encouraged claimants to often put 'no change' to how they were affected without adding any detail whatsoever, which was why some had their claim reduced, or received no award at all]
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Thanks , ok.... so nothing on what form of the pip criteria ( present or new 4 point rule )for people in my position will need to take has been decided yet then
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ATTENTION
Apparently, no figures or evidence provided, there are extremely large communities of disabled people in this country playing a disability game.
It seems we are talking of hundreds of thousands of people. My guess as per comment above.
If you see anyone playing this game, which should not be very difficult as the number is exceptionally large, please report.
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I'm afraid it's hard to say. It depends on if/when all of these changes happen. There are so many variables associated with this particular proposed change. I'd really hope you'd be treated as a current claimant and protected the same way current PIP claimants are following the revisions.
Sorry I really want to be able to put your mind at ease. I'm just very aware that part or maybe even all of what's currently been proposed could change, as we've seen happen this week.
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Once pushed through can take all back as it's obvious we cannot trust them I emailed the speaker Mr hoyle saying its lies where's the democracy and much more then messaged twice again saying they want to cull the disabled stated he must have seen media proof it's all scam I hate to say this bit I don't think we can relax on this at all I feel no comfort at all I keep saying why did meg hillier do this she's educated lady she knows all the facts to say it OK for existing claimants and not for new claimants goes against what she did admenment for I personally think it was to stamp her authority and show starmer he must listen to her in general not about us or it would be about everyone so people need to question her reasoning why this is acceptable I did email her to asking that
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Yeah best to wait and see what is passed then see
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Thanks.
Will I need to upload IDs or just provide the numbers of my IDs?
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Timms admitted the people claiming are entitled and many who are entitled don't claim, but basically that the gov doesn't want them to claim because it's too expensive.
As most of us know, this was always about money and never about helping anyone. It's no surprise they're trying to make it a money bill.
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Also, Stef Benstead posted this a couple of days ago.
And I'm still confused whether or not this means you keep LCWRA only if you're not on PIP, or if it counts both ways. My brain is extra foggy today.
Anybody understand?
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