The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)

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  • LongRoad
    LongRoad Online Community Member Posts: 17 Connected
  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 860 Championing

    I read your post and its like a diary of my life, you nailed it. These things are not easy to overcome as I am sure you know as well. The few occasions I have been in a socialised event, I stick out like a sore thumb, everyone laughing and joking, me just sitting there, then the worst happens you get asked if you are ok and suddenly you are the focus of everyone's attention, far easier to just avoid people.

  • mawempathy
    mawempathy Online Community Member Posts: 75 Empowering

    Right now it looks bad, but there's going to be almighty battles over this before it even gets close to becoming law. Someone from Scope earlier said this entire process could take a year (or more) to run through all the different stages, before its law.

    The BBC say they'll be able to make better calculations about the potential impact on numbers of people, once the greatest Chancellor and investment banker of all-time (joking) delivers her budget update next week. This "fiscal statement" will present the numbers they don't have today.

  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 247 Empowering
    edited March 18
  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 247 Empowering

    Darwin couldnt have said it better

  • pinkrose
    pinkrose Online Community Member Posts: 160 Empowering

    I have a pip review at the end of 2026 and when I was recently migrating to uc from my income related esa top up, I was told by the dwp over the phone, that I have a WCA for my ESA/UC scheduled for may 2026.

    To say I'm terrified is an understatement, but if the dwp and health assessors give me fair assessments then i should stay as I am with lcwra/support group and enhanced pip for both components. I should even be put in the classification of 'severely disabled' .

    However, having been on the receiving end of an assessment a few years ago that was a 'tissue of lies', I fear anything could happen and I will be left destitute.

    Let's not forget that we are all treated as 'new claimants' at the outcome of assessments and I fear the assessors will be pressured to give LOWER POINTS TO SAVE MONEY AND TRY TO FORCE MORE SICK AND DISABLED PEOPLE INTO WORK.

    Anybody else feel the same ?

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 860 Championing
    edited March 18

    One of them, the existing requirement for 8 total for standard or 12 total for enhanced also still applies in addition to the 4 point descriptor rule.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,796 Championing

    Were the 4 points for one daily living activity only?

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 860 Championing

    I think she is even worse than Osborne at this point.

  • Slonvinton
    Slonvinton Online Community Member Posts: 32 Contributor

    A lot of us are feeling like this, but there is still the possibility of a huge backlash against these proposals so we need to ry to hold on

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,796 Championing

    No it means you have to score 4 points for one daily living activity.

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 860 Championing

    Not completely, they want to make default face to face again, but will allow telephone as a reasonable adjustment.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 873 Trailblazing

    At least they recording the interviews..but I'm worse than I was when I got pip . So would we have to fill in another form. ? .that shadow work and pensions women sitting by Stride was evil . Wanting further cuts

  • carteroo5
    carteroo5 Online Community Member Posts: 18 Connected
  • Doechii
    Doechii Online Community Member Posts: 1 Listener

    Hello,

    New here and looking for some guidance.

    I understand the proposed changes in April 2026 means that, from April 2026, those currently on LCWRA will receive a "Health Element" that's equal to what they currently receive as a topup (currently around £408 a month)

    However, what will happens to those who are on LCW (not LCWRA) as of April 2026 under the proposed changes? Those on LCW currently receive something like an additional £150 per month on top of the standard allowance. What happens to this additional amount for LCW come April 2026?

    I am asking because the green paper is very clear that those on LCWRA will transition into receiving the same topup payments under the new Health Element. However, it seems to be silent on whether this happens for LCW as well. What do prior LCW recipients they get in April 2026?

    Any clarification would be appreciated. Thanks.

  • sparrow77
    sparrow77 Online Community Member Posts: 51 Empowering

    Yes I am in the same boat . I get daily living by multiple 2 points but no 4 point scores . Although I believe I should of got 4 points in a certain activity . I didn't dispute for fear I'd lose the lot .

  • Meredithshep
    Meredithshep Online Community Member Posts: 87 Empowering
    edited March 18

    I can't make head nor tail of it, ESA CB changing (for new claimants) ????? PIP points changing so no matter how many points you get you can't have it unless you get 4 points on one question of daily living. I give up I only get CB ESA and PIP and would not qualify for UC. Face to face I just cannot do and I will not be going to any jobcentre half naked and smelling of urine because of my incontinece and will no longer have a carer to help wash or dress my lower body if PIP stops even if I could do face to face for any amount of money. I really do despair

  • lily84
    lily84 Online Community Member Posts: 31 Connected

    Hi, I've tried to read through some of these posts and the green paper but it's just overwhelming and making my anxiety even worse. From what I can understand, as I am on contribution based Esa from 2018 (not sure if it's legacy Esa or ns Esa as i don't really understand it) then this means I will be time limited and then lose my money as I have some savings. I'm also on indefinate Dla and haven't been moved over to pip yet, so what does that mean for me? It seems to me that I will lose out no matter what I do now. Can someone please help to clarify what will happen. Thanks.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,796 Championing
  • Prinko
    Prinko Online Community Member Posts: 22 Contributor

    as a few of us have suggested from reading it, it seems like the new benefit/time limited aspect of it is for any new claimants.

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