The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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well the lot of them need to go but I meant reeves . Think tank reckons that there predicted savings of £5b will actually only amount to £100m . By the time it’s extra resources to the NHS etc . I imagine GPs are feeling this already . Then there’s the tribunal service. When it went from DLA to PIP they had to quickly train staff including judges GPS and disabled people to sit on tribunals. In my case they hadn’t been trained properly and it was unprofessional to where it went to upper tribunal. The DWP even had someone sitting in to question me who thought she was ironside and I’d committed murder . Absolutely shocking. This all costs money and ppl are warning them that from past experience these things don’t work and costs more .
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I get esa and pip and just wondered what my situation was. Had a letter last year with a form to fill in to see if I still warrant pip which has continued but not sure if I will be reassessed for both esa and pip. Was wondering if there is a place to ask questions as I posted before.
Also is it this thread where Scope will post what they have learnt from the proposals or elsewhere?
Thanks
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It wouldn't suprise me at all if it's "only" £100m - I mean can any of us imagine that amount of money to throw around - I can't imagine £1 mil let alone anything like that! Austerity has pretty much stripped every public service to the bone. There's nothing left to cut. Nothing. It's almost as if sick and disabled people aren't rolling in cash and living the high life…
One of the best GPs at my local clinic has left due to burnout (everyone wanted to see her because she didn't rush people). The govt has no clue how much ordinary people actually help them out by being unpaid carers, by not claiming benefits they or their loved ones are entitled to.
I'm sorry you had to go through that. One piece of advice I got about re-assessments was to record it on your phone. I think you have the right to do that. It apprantly does have an effect on how people are treated and also gives a record they can't argue and try to gaslight you about.
That said money talks at govts far more than people do. If the figures aren't there, maybe they'll abandon it (wishful thinking I know) - if they do they won't do that for another year and do a lot of tough talking about why it's necersary to still do it but quietly and slowly abandon it, but everything's just so uncertain with what they'll do.
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Hi. What happens if you dont have a camera for the selfies they request? I'm really dreading it when my time comes around.
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I read something else mentioning more cuts which basically means we are back into austerity. But if psycho starmer says it’s not then I guess it’s not 🤷♀️. They seem to be running around with no clear plan as though they were suddenly thrown in at the deep end . Everything they’re bringing in our Tory ideas that they blocked while in opposition. Ppl
Abroad must be laughing at the mess they’re making in such a short space of time . But thank god ppl like Ellen Clifford are already looking into action to take .
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I decided not to think about it. Whatever happens... They want us to be scared. I will not think about it and let the destiny do whatever it wants.
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I just feel so hopeless. I’ve got an ongoing 10 year award - well actually a bit longer as I’ve just been informed by PIP today that my recommended review date is June 2027. I was originally applied in 2016/award letter received in 2017. So my light touch review will happen, just after these changes happen, I’m so frightened that i will lose my lifeline. I don’t want to be claiming UC LCWRA or PIP I wish I could cure my cerebral palsy.
I can’t use my left hand or move my left foot. I need help to prepare food, and my sensory awareness is impaired and I can’t recognise when something hot. I just go to touch it. It’s like I can’t process that something is boiling hot! I got 4 points for this and for managing my condition because I have a lot of passive stretches and need someone to do this for me. I also recently started a specialised exercise regime but I need help to use the equipment - so I’m hoping that I should be okay to retain the 4 points here too. A long with the other descriptors I was awarded previously. However, I don’t trust that it will objective at this point because they will want to remove this for as many as possible. I do feel very vulnerable right now and scared I’m going to lose it all, I feel like I’m drowning and my anxiety is through the roof. Might it be worth to end it all here?!
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next time I’m buying a dictaphone. I don’t know how to record and talk on the phone at the same time and I’m hoping I have phone assessments again.
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I think it’s a good point, if you need mobility to get from A to B for some roles that will seriously compromise you. I think they’ll come back with off the wall example such as’There are amputees that work’ etc. It’s that bizarre. There are folk in heart failure/ COPD who might just about fail the criteria for daily living but cannot walk a distance. Is it going to take extra confirmation from your doctor that working might severely worsen your condition or even kill you for example?
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Guys, I just saw confirmation from a moderator (who works for the DWP) on the Benefits Advice UK subreddit re new descriptors — I saw a few pages back that people were asking if they were looking to change any of them. They are NOT. This is what they said:
No, they are not changing the descriptors at this stage.
Thought this might give the tiniest bit of relief to some of us ❤️
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are you getting contribution based ESA support group?
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Or they’ll just pull out the “remote jobs!” card as though that’s the magic answer
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Shout out to Neil Findlay Scottish Labour MP after sterling work for the poor, (a decade.). leaves the Labour Party because he cannot stomach the cuts. Liz Kendall made a veiled threat to Scotland at the beginning of her speech.. ‘she said if changes want to be made in Scotland they’ll have to find it from their own budget’ That was silly and ignores the bigger picture.. if Starmer want’s more nuclear warheads at Faslane given his Churchill pretensions… he’d better not rile up the Scots. This is exactly the kind of issue, mistreatment of the disabled/ imposing nuclear warheads that sparks talk of a referendum.
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…regarding the 4 points of the PIP rules.
Hypothetically comparing two truly disabled people:
Person 1:
- works full/part time
- meets the 4-point condition and receives standard/enhanced PIP benefits
- automatically receives a health element from UC, so:
salary from work + PIP + health element
Person 2:
does not work due to their health condition
-receives 20 points in PIP but 4 points in any descriptor
so has:
0 from salary + 0 from PIP + sanctions from UC (because they do not work)
so what
"Arbaeit macht frei"?
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Just finished the UC-claim review!
She seemed ok-ish lol Quiet assassin maybe; very soft spoken and obviously its her job and theres a script to follow. There was zero small talk lol
She asked me concerning some payments under "**TFR**".. i draw a blank 😂… had to google that acronym to realise it means 'Transfer' 👍 ..
Once that was confirmed, she then asked about my rent and the name change of the company and that-was-that!.
2 mins ago I received her note in my journal:
Your Universal Credit Claim Review is now complete.Following our interview, and the information you provided, we can confirm there is no change to your Universal Credit.
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I haven't worked so I guess I haven't payed national insurance credits. My mental health is all over the place I find it hard to remember such stuff. Regards
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i would think the at this stage reply says it all not the same as no the descriptors will not change in the future
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yes I've noticed on social media people being Grilled over ebay transactions etc.
when Its my turn they better be ready, I can rattle off all the items the NHS does not cover
but are vital,. the last time they questioned me I sent off 60 invoices they sent back a reply
"no need to do that again we understand", I did do it again because its part of my life.
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I totally agree secretsquirrel , there will be a lot of MPs that are against this passionately so, but they know if they go against this or speak out , they will lose their jobs... and as you say , the gravy train stops, sad that MPs don't have a moral compass or backbone anymore
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Have you noticed how Vorderman and the others have gone silent?
they said if Labour went like the tories they would call them out…🤐
New you gov poll 55% of people want a closer relationship with the EU
in the World of Starmer "No we don't" people can see we are going down the drain
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