The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 620 Trailblazing

    I read something else mentioning more cuts which basically means we are back into austerity. But if psycho starmer says it’s not then I guess it’s not 🤷‍♀️. They seem to be running around with no clear plan as though they were suddenly thrown in at the deep end . Everything they’re bringing in our Tory ideas that they blocked while in opposition. Ppl

    Abroad must be laughing at the mess they’re making in such a short space of time . But thank god ppl like Ellen Clifford are already looking into action to take .

  • Schildpad
    Schildpad Online Community Member Posts: 267 Empowering

    I decided not to think about it. Whatever happens... They want us to be scared. I will not think about it and let the destiny do whatever it wants.

  • rach_90
    rach_90 Online Community Member Posts: 17 Listener

    I just feel so hopeless. I’ve got an ongoing 10 year award - well actually a bit longer as I’ve just been informed by PIP today that my recommended review date is June 2027. I was originally applied in 2016/award letter received in 2017. So my light touch review will happen, just after these changes happen, I’m so frightened that i will lose my lifeline. I don’t want to be claiming UC LCWRA or PIP I wish I could cure my cerebral palsy.

    I can’t use my left hand or move my left foot. I need help to prepare food, and my sensory awareness is impaired and I can’t recognise when something hot. I just go to touch it. It’s like I can’t process that something is boiling hot! I got 4 points for this and for managing my condition because I have a lot of passive stretches and need someone to do this for me. I also recently started a specialised exercise regime but I need help to use the equipment - so I’m hoping that I should be okay to retain the 4 points here too. A long with the other descriptors I was awarded previously. However, I don’t trust that it will objective at this point because they will want to remove this for as many as possible. I do feel very vulnerable right now and scared I’m going to lose it all, I feel like I’m drowning and my anxiety is through the roof. Might it be worth to end it all here?!

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 620 Trailblazing

    next time I’m buying a dictaphone. I don’t know how to record and talk on the phone at the same time and I’m hoping I have phone assessments again.

  • Maggie37
    Maggie37 Online Community Member Posts: 72 Empowering

    I think it’s a good point, if you need mobility to get from A to B for some roles that will seriously compromise you. I think they’ll come back with off the wall example such as’There are amputees that work’ etc. It’s that bizarre. There are folk in heart failure/ COPD who might just about fail the criteria for daily living but cannot walk a distance. Is it going to take extra confirmation from your doctor that working might severely worsen your condition or even kill you for example?

  • evelyncourtney
    evelyncourtney Online Community Member Posts: 98 Empowering

    Guys, I just saw confirmation from a moderator (who works for the DWP) on the Benefits Advice UK subreddit re new descriptors — I saw a few pages back that people were asking if they were looking to change any of them. They are NOT. This is what they said:

    No, they are not changing the descriptors at this stage.

    Thought this might give the tiniest bit of relief to some of us ❤️

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 147 Empowering

    are you getting contribution based ESA support group?

  • evelyncourtney
    evelyncourtney Online Community Member Posts: 98 Empowering

    Or they’ll just pull out the “remote jobs!” card as though that’s the magic answer

  • Maggie37
    Maggie37 Online Community Member Posts: 72 Empowering

    Shout out to Neil Findlay Scottish Labour MP after sterling work for the poor, (a decade.). leaves the Labour Party because he cannot stomach the cuts. Liz Kendall made a veiled threat to Scotland at the beginning of her speech.. ‘she said if changes want to be made in Scotland they’ll have to find it from their own budget’ That was silly and ignores the bigger picture.. if Starmer want’s more nuclear warheads at Faslane given his Churchill pretensions… he’d better not rile up the Scots. This is exactly the kind of issue, mistreatment of the disabled/ imposing nuclear warheads that sparks talk of a referendum.

  • honeyhoney
    honeyhoney Online Community Member Posts: 136 Empowering

    …regarding the 4 points of the PIP rules.

    Hypothetically comparing two truly disabled people:

    Person 1:

    - works full/part time

    - meets the 4-point condition and receives standard/enhanced PIP benefits

    - automatically receives a health element from UC, so:

    salary from work + PIP + health element

    Person 2:

    does not work due to their health condition

    -receives 20 points in PIP but 4 points in any descriptor

    so has:

    0 from salary + 0 from PIP + sanctions from UC (because they do not work)

    so what

    "Arbaeit macht frei"?

  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 251 Empowering
    edited March 20

    Just finished the UC-claim review!

    She seemed ok-ish lol Quiet assassin maybe; very soft spoken and obviously its her job and theres a script to follow. There was zero small talk lol

    She asked me concerning some payments under "**TFR**".. i draw a blank 😂… had to google that acronym to realise it means 'Transfer' 👍 ..

    Once that was confirmed, she then asked about my rent and the name change of the company and that-was-that!.

    2 mins ago I received her note in my journal:

    Your Universal Credit Claim Review is now complete.Following our interview, and the information you provided, we can confirm there is no change to your Universal Credit.
    
  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Online Community Member Posts: 208 Empowering

    I haven't worked so I guess I haven't payed national insurance credits. My mental health is all over the place I find it hard to remember such stuff. Regards

  • michael57
    michael57 Online Community Member Posts: 1,302 Championing

    i would think the at this stage reply says it all not the same as no the descriptors will not change in the future

  • Vulcress
    Vulcress Online Community Member Posts: 83 Empowering

    yes I've noticed on social media people being Grilled over ebay transactions etc.

    when Its my turn they better be ready, I can rattle off all the items the NHS does not cover

    but are vital,. the last time they questioned me I sent off 60 invoices they sent back a reply

    "no need to do that again we understand", I did do it again because its part of my life.

  • Gazmo76
    Gazmo76 Online Community Member Posts: 21 Connected

    I totally agree secretsquirrel , there will be a lot of MPs that are against this passionately so, but they know if they go against this or speak out , they will lose their jobs... and as you say , the gravy train stops, sad that MPs don't have a moral compass or backbone anymore

  • Vulcress
    Vulcress Online Community Member Posts: 83 Empowering

    Have you noticed how Vorderman and the others have gone silent?

    they said if Labour went like the tories they would call them out…🤐

    New you gov poll 55% of people want a closer relationship with the EU

    in the World of Starmer "No we don't" people can see we are going down the drain

  • sparrow77
    sparrow77 Online Community Member Posts: 53 Empowering

    Yes I have the same C5/6 C6/7

    The chiari journey started last year and has been a difficult one im still having various tests . My tonsils are 4mm but it doesn't matter how low they are tbh the symptoms can be severe at just 4mm like mine. I honestly thought I had a brain tumour and wasn't taken seriously atall. Just had second MRI and they are now also saying intercranial hypertension 🤷🏻‍♀️. Yes the chiari does affect vision aswell as a whole host of other things ,I get numb toes ,tingling , dizziness , tiredness , vision changes , not to mention a pain in my head like a train has hit me .you also get neck pain which coupled with spondylosis is a horror too. one thing I will advise is don't give up on getting a diagnosis,if you feel something isn't right or they try and play something down that is concerning you seek a second opinion. I changed hospital as I wasn't happy with first

  • Maggie37
    Maggie37 Online Community Member Posts: 72 Empowering

    How bloody dare they! I’m going to raise this point later but just to say IT REALLY MATTERS WHO YOU GET.. in terms of any assessment, checking UC or PIP check their demeanour/ how they speak to you? -also GP/ Health Professionals. Some people are empathetic and on side, others hard wired to catch out others. They become part of the work culture they are experiencing. At times that’s great, other times a detriment to the disabled.

    I personally record everything and tell them that. My GP surgery very mixed. Head of practise arch Tory plus practice nurse who is a fascist, husband is a reform party member. She tends to sit on referrals? I always ask to see my long term doctor.. plus keep and back up everything. All communication re health and from DWP. It’s sad to be so untrusting but I’ve learned through experience.

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