The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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I was wondering if she put the new 4 point rule in as a bargaining chip, so she can compromise later and take it out if she comes under pressure from her MP's.
That's what they do sometimes when changing the rules and laws.
Watering some parts down to get other parts through.
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Hi, how do you know if you are legacy esa or new style esa? I was changed to cb Esa around 2019 from long term incapacity benefit. Also does anyone know what is happening with indefinite dla to pip timeline now? Now I'm so stressed and worried I'm about to lose it all
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I so hope you are right I am not sleeping with the dread of all this
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Thinking of you all, feel very low today. Giving my little Jack Russell a big cuddle, he’s all that keeps me going bless him.
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cant think why the rise in claimants
We had the worst PM at the worst possible time #covid
and now Labour act like confused sheep we are lagging behind other countries.
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Broke down crying now I am so low 😢
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I said that claimants are going to rely heavily on the social care system, NHS and charities due to the fall out of this. It will cost the government more money in the long run if these proposals go ahead.
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@Bigboblee50 and @Martinp Like you, I'm scared to death am am feeling very down. I'm trying to keep as "active" as possible. It's been a help to write to several parliamentarians and to complete the consultation.
Remember, too, that scarcely anyone loves this government. The Spring Statement will bring them more enemies. That can work for or against us. Be as proactive as you're able because, governments delight in dividing those they rule.
Remember to rest.
Love, Zipz
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This is exactly the angle they need to see on the consultation.
I also mentioned that, because the Tories spent 15 years cutting services, thus making more of a burden on other aspects of the state. There are people who would not need benefits if their conditions had been supported sooner, but that didn't happen, and now they need support.
Also, the unpopularity of this government is actually something more worrying than positive. It's worrying because it means people have already forgotten what the Tories have spent years doing, or might even fall into Reform's trap and not realise they want rid of all equality legislation. As I said before, this is a mess, but unless we can get a Lib/Green govt in power, it is still the best option for disabled people. Grim as it is, we are better off with this mess which might yet be changed than with Whately "do more damage!" and Farage "no more welfare benefits!".
Please everyone do remember that. Whatever Labour are doing, there are worse options we could sleepwalk into at the next election if we're not on the ball.5 -
I think he was being satirical. He wasn't being serious.
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The media reporting, government and some political parties sitting in Westminster have been toxic towards disabled people.
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Agreed. Anyone that votes Reform are voting for more of the same politics that got us here, whether they realise that or not. Just like Labour 2024 voters.
For disabled people who can't work, moving abroad won't be possible in the majority of cases. Unless things get so dire other countries start accepting British refugees, most disabled people who cant work are stuck here.
I anticipate a lot of younger disabled people who can work will look into leaving the UK as time goes on though. We have no future here. Same with older retirees.
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Pretty much this. These benefit cut proposals - alongside cutting winter fuel allowances - is the beginning of the slow dcecline of the last Labour government in history.
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He is trying to do some weird reverse psychology claiming its immoral to keep vulnerable people out of poverty and that high earning tax payers are somehow more in need.
Economists are now jumping in saying Reeve should be changing the fiscal rules to avoid the cuts, they have said "the uk cant cut its way to growth".1 -
Let's just keep things to facts please.
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Thank you I am trying to remind myself they are just proposals at present a long way to go
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The problem is the 4 point rule is the whole point of it, its providing the majority of the cuts. If they get rid of it, they may as well drop the entire green paper. The bargaining chip which was probably deliberate was the PIP freeze and LCWRA cut backs.
We also shouldnt sit back and assume it will be watered down, we need to resist this until the end really. Remember this has cross party support, there is no opposition of note to it in the commons. I think Labour are all in on this, and would even carry on with 20-30 mps going independent.
If it does get dropped I wouldnt be surprised if Reeve resigned over it. She is absolutely obsessed with austerity.3 -
Hi
Can anyone please tell me as recent kendal anouncement has got everyone headache i just wanted to know i have my wife in lcwra and no end date and i need to know does she needs reasessment for pip or will be replaced with new uc health element without asessment on pip and if she gets to new uc health element without assessment does she have to look for work on uc health element or will she be treated as have no reassesment needed? Thanks
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