The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)

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  • carteroo5
    carteroo5 Community Member Posts: 24 Contributor

    Quick question as I haven't been able to find an answer, What if you have 10 points on mobility, No points living....And get lcwra? If having no points on the living section, Would this mean lcwra would also stop?

  • sparrow77
    sparrow77 Community Member Posts: 64 Empowering

    Sitting here thinking how after 4 emails to MP I have had no response (yes sadly my local MP is labour ) and have seen others have had no response so had a light bulb moment .... Maybe if we change the subject heading on our emails to "donation inside " or similar they will be more inclined to open them 😂

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    I may not have had any replies from my MP, but all emails are read by their team, so I at least know that I've used my voice. 😊

  • Martinp
    Martinp Community Member Posts: 248 Empowering

    she should of won the Oscar for best supporting role to a complete psychopath, she absolutely went so over the top delivering her speech, makes me cringe.

  • michael57
    michael57 Community Member Posts: 2,828 Championing

    do you with all honesty believe that mps actually read these emails you all send they may get a brief from a poor lacky that does and may send out a random reply but thats about it

  • Bigboblee50
    Bigboblee50 Community Member Posts: 41 Contributor

    The only positive reactions has been The Sun with usual nonsense a friends cousin got a new TV he sold for drugs demanded and got a new one. Anyone tell me where that mythical realm actually is where they hand out free cars tvs etc? Cos every time I have anything to do with the DWP I get looked at like something they stepped in

  • Jamieray
    Jamieray Community Member Posts: 2 Listener

    I am the same and it is scaring the hell out of me. I can only work part time limited hours and I have a mortgage of 30 years. O.K. it is about 350 which is not a lot these days but I don't get any help with that so it is paid out of my PIP. I get 13 points in total and 12 of them are 2 points in 6 factors. I would not get 4 points in any. So, no more PIP means no more ESA disability and severe disability. £90 a week plus £90 part time wage will be my total income. how can I manage my disability need, get fed and cover it. My outgoings are over twice that. I will lose my home, all livelihood and everything I have to live for. Reforms yes. Even if that means more points to get the higher rate. But leaving us all without ANYTHING?

  • dayjarvoo
    dayjarvoo Community Member Posts: 10 Connected

    hi

    My mp is Torsten bell :(

    I don’t want to write email as I feel he may get shouty back

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,416 Championing

    So celebrities have spoken out against it, they said to tax rich companies

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Community Member Posts: 297 Empowering

    Hi Catherine, gosh this whole shambles of a bleep thing is such a disgrace isn't it ! I feel particularly sad for the young and not so young folk who are suffering from very serious mental health, invisible and undiagnosed conditions, this must be really creating more extreme anxiety and it all boils down to money as always 😡

    I got a 10 year award in 2017, I firmly believe it depends on the assessor you get, I was lucky in that mine was an experienced Nursing Sister who was kind, considerate and most importantly was very knowledgeable, aware and knew the impact of my severe and progressive conditions on my life without a million questions or trick questions being asked. Not all my assessments have been this way though but I always backed up everything with both, objective ( test results etc ) and subjective ( lived experience ) evidence and have been given the same award each time but with shorter periods in between assessments, plenty of outright untruths documented by them in past ones. My main conditions are not invisible ones, they are ''in your face'' lol she couldn't deny them even if she wanted to. I do believe if the assessors cant physically see something or there are no objective tests for them then they can and do believe everything is just subjective, there lays the problem, in my opinion.

    I just wanted to try and explain why I feel I was awarded a10 year award and an up and coming light touch review. I do hope these ridiculous and costly ''improvements'' never see the light of day. Take care Catherine and hang on in there, we have many good folk fighting in our corner 😊

  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,345 Championing

    You could write to members of the Committee for Work and pensions instead. The members are listed here:

    https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/164/work-and-pensions-committee/membership/

    Write to members as individual MPs rather than to the Committee.

  • michael57
    michael57 Community Member Posts: 2,828 Championing

    i doubt being bombarded with emails will stop them from sleeping at night

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  • HollisMcBobbery
    HollisMcBobbery Community Member Posts: 31 Contributor

    There are a few who have brought up concerns in private at cabinet before it was announced on Tuesday (Rayner included apparently) but yeah publicly all of cabinet backs it. I guess they have to but it's no less dissapointing to see.

  • LIVEDANDLEARNED
    LIVEDANDLEARNED Community Member Posts: 145 Empowering

    @luvpink do you have any links where I can see what you said “The Trussell trust and the MS society have expressed their disgust on GB news.”. I’d like to watch what they said?

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    hi albus what makes you think it will not be voted into law ? Any positivity I will take

  • Trev000
    Trev000 Community Member Posts: 7 Listener

    I don't understand why what they’re proposing has to be all or nothing. This is far from ideal, but, why, if someone isn't found to qualify for PIP under the new scoring system, can’t the recipient still receive the health top up (LCWRA) perhaps based on their PIP score across the board on a sliding scale. To lose both PIP and the LCWRA while disabled is beyond unfair.

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  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    There's a lot of unhappiness from the back benches, so it needs to get voted in first, which may not happen.
    But it also may get voted in.
    OR it may get amended first, so it may be 2 points needed or something.
    So we just have to keep using our voices with our MPs. And might I add, please try to be polite with your MPs, they're not the people who've put forward these plans and it's worth having them on our side.

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