The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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Hi Andi, I'm the same, my review is due in 2032 and my health will only get worse over time, from what I understand the 4 point rule will only be applied at someones next review (after Nov 2026) although they hint that there 'may' be some flexibility or other help for some existing claimants but they also said long term will never have to have review… The reality is they haven't actually clarified who it is that wont ever have to have a review, so I don't think anyone really knows all the details yet…. I'm not sure if they do !!
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Thanks I'll have a look I'm not good with the ins and outs, the ramifications etc like what will happen if your on this or that along with pip, dates etc it's all so overwhelming.
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”To qualify for these benefits, 2 to 3 years’ worth of National Insurance credits must have been paid or credited prior to the date of a person’s claim. ”
according to this, you could be on this insurance for a limited time. Then make voluntary contributions to your national insurance credits and then go back into the benefit?If this is the case this is a complete shambles! They are really completely useless
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I’ve just been given a 10 year fixed term award on MR so not light touch but I guess at least a recognition that my difficulties are longer term. I sent evidence to show my disability is considered to be permanent and said I believed I met the criteria for an ongoing award but 🤷🏻♀️
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not only will they lose carers allowance but they’ll have to work leaving the government to care for these 1 million disabled they want off pip . So instead of paying £1 an hour they’ll be paying £10-£15 per hour. They haven’t thought this through. Notice they haven’t changed mobility as they don’t want to upset motability and put them out of business. So again discrimination against the ppl who need care .
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I went to MR for an increase in award and said to my legal advisor about asking for an extension. He said no not all at once let’s see what happens. He messed my new evidence up and I lost MR , when I called dwp to explain and asked about tribunal they instantly contacted the case manager who looked again and award me highest . I think had I requested they look at length of award I may of got it . Well done to you as at least you don’t have this worry right now x
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“The judge held that the DWP had: failed to adequately explain the proposals; had failed to explain that the main purpose was to save money rather than to get claimants into work; had failed to provide sufficient time for the consultation.”
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go the health top up if you qualify for UC.
If you don’t for whatever reason then you lose the benefit and the NI contributions towards your pension
Another thing, according to the withdrawal agreement, if you are to leave the UK and live in Germany say, you are entitled to 5 years of ESA CB
Creating a discrimination to those that in the UK
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Agreed. My income is CB-ESA and PIP. I'm not eligible for UC. I live alone without family. I'm scared still. I'm currently polishing draft letters to various parliamentarians.
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But why does that effect you now I don't understand next review you might get 4?
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So you would need 4 on own and 8 on Any other questions on daily living ???
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They don't, one of the questions on the new pip test dosent make sense, the one that you have trouble washing below waist and hair. Surely it should mean above.
Also what is light touch review?
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I'm on CBESA or new style ESA....and UC lcwra 🤷 like I say , I think nothing really changes for me until pip takes over everything , obviously I'll still have to deal with a reassessment for what I get , who knows , It won't be sorted quickly I'm pretty sure of that 😌
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I think I read that you need atleast one category to score a 4, Then you need another 4 points in the other categories to make up a minimum of 8 points. I'm not sure if I'm right though.
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Technically I don’t have to worry for a few years but I’m still terrified! I have filled in the green paper consultation and enjoyed telling them (politely) what I think of them
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yes I need to get that filled out . Hopefully by the time yours is due again things won’t be as bad . I’m sure some of these reforms aren’t even legal
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Morning summer love ,
I read this morning the dwp have a report which explains why there has been an increase in pip applications but they’re refusing to release it until after the spring budget . So they’re bringing in reforms to basically stop ppl claiming and telling the public it’s MH ADHD Autism being used as a way to lie to get pip . Yet they have answers which they won’t tell us . I’m sure that will look good in court.
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I think you only need to score 1 descriptor 4 points for the daily living component.
and others that add to 8
Please try not to worry to much about this (i know easier said than done :-( ) we hope any legal challenges these plans get put in the trash.
As for reassessments, the backlog will be massive right now so when you do get ESA/UC50 forum to fill in it could take many months to be heard.
Everything is rushed right now while having everyone on ESA/IB on UC by April 2026 and assessments to will only cause more problems for the DWP
This won't save them money this way.
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