The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)

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  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 866 Championing
    edited March 22

    He is trying to do some weird reverse psychology claiming its immoral to keep vulnerable people out of poverty and that high earning tax payers are somehow more in need.

    Economists are now jumping in saying Reeve should be changing the fiscal rules to avoid the cuts, they have said "the uk cant cut its way to growth".

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,823 Championing

    That's right keep emailing do consultation loads of pertitions go online sign it's ok to cry we are scared but it's proposals of the elite in court it wouldn't stand we have so many people fighting with real passion as ellen clifford they learnt so much over the years ie laws people are driven with a great passion of the injustice this is the biggest attack on disabled community I can't attend protests but I keep emailing signing pertitions I've emailed my mp 10ish times I think and I will keep messaging I asked him does he support these cuts no response so I will email again they must here us!!!

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,823 Championing

    its ok these proposals are so ridiculous remember loads people making plans to fight against them waiting for budget and from there all systems go

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,823 Championing
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,823 Championing

    WeWell he works for Davos

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,823 Championing
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,823 Championing

    I cant even look at starmer he has done noting for UK he's putting final nail

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,823 Championing

    We won't lose our benefits it will all be watered down

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  • Bigboblee50
    Bigboblee50 Online Community Member Posts: 35 Contributor

    Thank you I am trying to remind myself they are just proposals at present a long way to go

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 866 Championing
    edited March 22

    The problem is the 4 point rule is the whole point of it, its providing the majority of the cuts. If they get rid of it, they may as well drop the entire green paper. The bargaining chip which was probably deliberate was the PIP freeze and LCWRA cut backs.
    We also shouldnt sit back and assume it will be watered down, we need to resist this until the end really. Remember this has cross party support, there is no opposition of note to it in the commons. I think Labour are all in on this, and would even carry on with 20-30 mps going independent.
    If it does get dropped I wouldnt be surprised if Reeve resigned over it. She is absolutely obsessed with austerity.

  • ased444
    ased444 Online Community Member Posts: 64 Listener

    Hi

    Can anyone please tell me as recent kendal anouncement has got everyone headache i just wanted to know i have my wife in lcwra and no end date and i need to know does she needs reasessment for pip or will be replaced with new uc health element without asessment on pip and if she gets to new uc health element without assessment does she have to look for work on uc health element or will she be treated as have no reassesment needed? Thanks

  • ased444
    ased444 Online Community Member Posts: 64 Listener
  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 866 Championing
    edited March 22

    If I have one of these telephone Uc reviews which seems is inevitable, and they try to challenge my spending, I wont be taking it lying down.

    Deprivation of capital is deliberately getting rid of money to increase benefit entitlement, its not spending money on things the DWP dont like, and I will be happy to take it to tribunal if they try to bully me over it. Taking £50 out of an account isnt really going to change entitlement, so it would be a walk over.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 115 Empowering

    Yes, and they said they would do it in this parliament session, which means before the end of July 2025, as this parliament session will end 31st July 2025.

    Keir Starmer is a thickheaded cruel dishonest.

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 131 Empowering
    edited March 22

    Keir Starmer has to make his mind up if he is either a saviour or an oppressor, but in my view he's certainly no saviour as he would like us all to beleive. I have written to various media outlets about these cuts, including The Guardian, The Mirror, The Times, also emailed Ellen Clifford asking her about potential legal actions.

    Iv'e emailed my local MP,and also Jeremy Corbyn, John Mcdonnell about these cuts to our benefits, I used Chatgpt to format each letter and email as it's free to use then just copied it into my emails etc. Apparently 2 million of us could be affected by these cuts, but in my view if we all refused to accept them, even if that meant threats of sanctions or losing benefits, how could they make us all destitute and homeless? There would be such a massive backlash from mp's and the media, giving this abhorrent government unwanted negative press.

    If we just sit here waiting for these changes to happen, and to allow this onslaught to our right to a decent way of living, they will carry on with future cuts, and so will other future governments, seeing us as an easy target to bully and balance the fiscal books. I know many of us have written to our mp's etc, but we mustn't give in and need to carry on emailing the media, mp's and others to listen to our opposition to these cuts.

    If anyone would like to email Ellen Clifford to ask her to oppose these cuts with legal challenges, or just to offer her your support, Iv'e included her email link below. Take care all x

    ellenclifford277@gmail.com

  • Stellar
    Stellar Online Community Member Posts: 258 Empowering

    Keir Starmer made his mind up that's an oppressor long before he become PM. It goes right the way back to his time as Director of Public Prosecutions, alongside working to destroy the Labour left during the Corbyn era, right the through to lying to become Labour leader in 2020.

    Also don't use ChatGPT to write your letters. Not only do AI programs contributing to the climate crisis with every prompt, but placeholder/AI/templates will get filtered out as spam.

    Also writing to MPs is not enough. It never will be. People who can must take to the streets.

  • Mysteriouskitten
    Mysteriouskitten Online Community Member Posts: 26 Empowering

    Ellen Clifford is already on it.

    https://youtu.be/WVk7NljMM1w?si=yQEy2eoX8r-hitn5

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