The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)

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  • dayjarvoo
    dayjarvoo Community Member Posts: 10 Connected

    hi

    My mp is Torsten bell :(

    I don’t want to write email as I feel he may get shouty back

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,405 Championing

    So celebrities have spoken out against it, they said to tax rich companies

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Community Member Posts: 303 Empowering

    Hi Catherine, gosh this whole shambles of a bleep thing is such a disgrace isn't it ! I feel particularly sad for the young and not so young folk who are suffering from very serious mental health, invisible and undiagnosed conditions, this must be really creating more extreme anxiety and it all boils down to money as always 😡

    I got a 10 year award in 2017, I firmly believe it depends on the assessor you get, I was lucky in that mine was an experienced Nursing Sister who was kind, considerate and most importantly was very knowledgeable, aware and knew the impact of my severe and progressive conditions on my life without a million questions or trick questions being asked. Not all my assessments have been this way though but I always backed up everything with both, objective ( test results etc ) and subjective ( lived experience ) evidence and have been given the same award each time but with shorter periods in between assessments, plenty of outright untruths documented by them in past ones. My main conditions are not invisible ones, they are ''in your face'' lol she couldn't deny them even if she wanted to. I do believe if the assessors cant physically see something or there are no objective tests for them then they can and do believe everything is just subjective, there lays the problem, in my opinion.

    I just wanted to try and explain why I feel I was awarded a10 year award and an up and coming light touch review. I do hope these ridiculous and costly ''improvements'' never see the light of day. Take care Catherine and hang on in there, we have many good folk fighting in our corner 😊

  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,351 Championing

    You could write to members of the Committee for Work and pensions instead. The members are listed here:

    https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/164/work-and-pensions-committee/membership/

    Write to members as individual MPs rather than to the Committee.

  • michael57
    michael57 Community Member Posts: 2,743 Championing

    i doubt being bombarded with emails will stop them from sleeping at night

  • alexroda
    alexroda Community Member Posts: 378 Trailblazing

    im not so sure

    Also remember that many of them are newbies

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  • HollisMcBobbery
    HollisMcBobbery Community Member Posts: 31 Contributor

    There are a few who have brought up concerns in private at cabinet before it was announced on Tuesday (Rayner included apparently) but yeah publicly all of cabinet backs it. I guess they have to but it's no less dissapointing to see.

  • LIVEDANDLEARNED
    LIVEDANDLEARNED Community Member Posts: 141 Empowering

    @luvpink do you have any links where I can see what you said “The Trussell trust and the MS society have expressed their disgust on GB news.”. I’d like to watch what they said?

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    hi albus what makes you think it will not be voted into law ? Any positivity I will take

  • Trev000
    Trev000 Community Member Posts: 7 Listener

    I don't understand why what they’re proposing has to be all or nothing. This is far from ideal, but, why, if someone isn't found to qualify for PIP under the new scoring system, can’t the recipient still receive the health top up (LCWRA) perhaps based on their PIP score across the board on a sliding scale. To lose both PIP and the LCWRA while disabled is beyond unfair.

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  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,423 Championing

    There's a lot of unhappiness from the back benches, so it needs to get voted in first, which may not happen.
    But it also may get voted in.
    OR it may get amended first, so it may be 2 points needed or something.
    So we just have to keep using our voices with our MPs. And might I add, please try to be polite with your MPs, they're not the people who've put forward these plans and it's worth having them on our side.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Community Member Posts: 9,825 Championing

    What do you suggest it's working mps talking about the fear will feel in parliament how many emails thier reciving

  • sparrow77
    sparrow77 Community Member Posts: 64 Empowering

    Don't know if this has been posted on here

    https://dpac.uk.net/2025/03/welfarenotwarfare-list-of-local-actions/

    List of local places taking action on 26th against the cuts .

  • michael57
    michael57 Community Member Posts: 2,743 Championing

    they could well be talking about all of you the same way your all talking about them only difference is there on a tad more money than you

  • keira
    keira Community Member Posts: 173 Empowering

    From Rightsnet

    18 March 2025, 04:39 pm#10

    Sam H
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    Health Projects, North & West Gloucestershire Citizens Advice

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    I hope to write up proper thoughts at another time, but aside from all the other horribleness with this, what particularly stood out to me was that the “4 points in one activity to qualify for PIP” requirement will be implemented by primary legislation. There is no particular need for this as presently all provisions to do with scoring, etc, are addressed under the regulations and I see no reason why this change could not be implemented through changing the regs. The SSWP’s power to do so is quite clearly stated in s. 80 WRA 2012.

    Unless, of course, if the Government thought that this change would be incompatible with the Equality and/or Human Rights Acts, therefore requiring the change to be made by an Act of Parliament to prevent it being struck down by the courts.

    In the same vein, the changes to PIP and the WCA are notably not part of the consultation. With regard to those changes, they are only interested in hearing how people who will lose PIP (read: all financial support under the new rules) can best be supported when this happens (but somewhat confusingly the green paper states earlier that TP may be on the table for current claimants).

    https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/21015/

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Community Member Posts: 705 Championing

    @alexroda

    This is the sad reality of politics……it’s all about numbers, not individual experiences. Why should MPs only be persuaded to act when they receive thousands of emails from disabled constituents? A true MP should be willing to act even if just one disabled person reaches out, because every life affected by these policies matters.

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