Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)

it’s impossible to think they can get away with it and not lose in court or the echr. Both Stu and this other channel creator said they’ll be going against the equality act . Starmer really needs to sack her . I just watched Jeremy Corbyn on sky news and he said Labour MPs have told him they’re not happy. Apparently they’re now talking to him as they’re not happy with the government. The interviewer asked if Keir is a chameleon and he said there’s a few of them in parliament.

Thanks for this ROSS, will give it a watch. I just wish these 'upset MP'S' would 'speak up'.

We've only had a handful of MP'S speak up, it's disgraceful.

yes I thought it was interesting when he said that. It just shows you they’re not happy with Starmer . At the end of the day they’ve said they want £5 billion in cuts which is more than the Tory’s and the judge said it was so much of a cut that is was unlawful. It’s actually unbelievable that they just want to **** pip from a million ppl regardless if they’re disabled or not and attach lcwra to it . So ppl can no longer have a long term condition. I’m just hoping the courts find it all unlawful.

I don’t think they care about getting ppl to work. They could start with the healthy job seekers first . It’s not as though they’ve just tightened the criteria a bit , they’ve literally worked out how many ppl they need to get of pip to save the desired amount. They are truly evil.

I will try to explain this again.

It initially be just PIP as the PIP assessment isnt used for LCW.

Automated repeat WCA is going to resume, it might already have resumed, as long as the WCA is still here then the PIP assessment only affects PIP, the plan is to eventually get rid of WCA, and when that happens there will be no more LCW/LCWRA, a health top up will replace it, the health top up will have no automated exemption from work related activities, its purely a financial support mechanism. When this change happens there will only be the PIP assessment.

The health top up will have two ways to be eligible, either via PIP daily living or if you already have LCWRA before 2026, and you then are awarded LCWRA again from a new WCA after that point. I assume if you are made eligible via the second way, then you keep it perpetually without assessments until the next reform or claim closed, a kind of grand fathering.

Its more lies really, if it was just about improving work access, they can do that without eligibility and cash cuts. Likewise the more recent interviews have claimed those who cant work will stay protected, clearly requiring 4 points to be eligible for PIP (which will later be a requirement for the health topup also) makes that a lie.

So there's not enough well paid jobs in the country hiring, many on UC to top up wages. As well as many looking for jobs.

A policy to force those of us on some form of disability benefit to join the queue of those seeking work. Where are these jobs coming from? And who are these employers who will take on people with disabilities?

I have worked several times, and each time, my mental health would crash because I was always on edge, made me suicidal, so I ended up on ESA and PIP.

Could I work from home? Absolutely, but there's no one hiring, I want to get out of the nightmare of constantly having to justify my disability.

But you know, it's okay for MPs to get free things, and a pay rise.

For the few, not the many.

@idk said:

"I have worked several times, and each time, my mental health would crash because I was always on edge, made me suicidal, so I ended up on ESA and PIP."

Me too. The covert and overt bullying by colleagues is what saw my final collapse after 40+ years of "earning my keep".

It's all fine and well Kendall, Reeves, Rayner et al pontificating about employers/reasonable adjustments etc. but my experience is the employers are not the problem.

Colleagues who greatly resented any reasonable adjustments would not take their resentment / jealousy up with the manager/employer. They expressed their resentment cattily, bitchily and humiliatingly directly to me, or in my direction whilst pretending it was a "general" discussion.

I hope your ESA is not New Style because it would appear those of us on that, without UC, are being sacrificed first. 😕

I know what you mean . I’m trying not to panic as Sunak put my conditions into a set back . I was just getting better when Labour got in and I guessed there were going after us early on. It just doesn’t make sense how they’re trying to cut back further than anyone has tried before and they’ve failed.