Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
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What was said pls anyone I couldn't watch
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Yes UK courts have to take into account any ECHR rulings. We're signed up to that. But ECHR judgements can't directly overturn UK law, they can only challenge law(s) on human rights grounds. The ultimate arbiter of UK law is UK judges who take into account any ECHR rulings as part of their judgements.
We're really getting into the weeds on this one. To say this is complicated would be a massive understatement. 😂
What should allow you to rest easier is knowing there are many good people who will be using every tool available to them to fight on our behalf.
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Well....again , we've heard the same rhetoric......it's all about 'working people', and getting ('forcing') disabled and vulnerable people into 'work'.
I must say she has 'blundered' her way through this statement...stuttering and stammering, because she knows she's completely inept and incompetent,
Special thanks though to Rachel Maskell , Labour MP ,who just 'spoke up for us'.
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🙏 thank you
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Overall, it is estimated that in 2029/30 there will be 3.2 million families – some current recipients and some future recipients - who will financially lose as a result of this package, with an average loss of £1,720 per year compared to inflation. There are also estimated to be 3.8 million families - some current recipients and some future recipients - who will financially gain from this package, with an average gain of £420 per year compared to inflation
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thank you and fingers crossed 🤞
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it was online on the benefits and work website. I don’t know how to copy and paste but it basically said they’re putting it to the vote to try and get past the courts. But if you read my reply from mawempathy above and William they both state the echr does have power if it’s against our legal rights. Sorry to worry you Catherine x
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who will financially gain from this package, with an average gain of £420 per year compared to inflationcan someone explain who could be better off by £420 a year? I just can’t work it out or who are thinking about?
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Reeves just said "just because people are disabled doesn't mean they can't work", this was in rely to the Labour mp from Bradford who challenged her about the harm of 'cuts' to the most vulnerable.
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So if you have pip over the date due to come into effect will you be moved over ?
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But they just done investigation on dwp ?? Haven't heard outcome from that
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No I appreciate you replying did ant mps say anything was it thier time to say anything sorry to ask so many questions
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you fail to mention the creation of the unemployment insurance, which will substitute ESA CB. Which means that those receiving it will lose £5000 a year plus lose their NI contributions towards a future pension
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im confused as how did the DWP came up with those figures!!!
If you lose your PIP daily living allowance, as it stands in hats nearly £73 a week. You’ll also lose your health element in UC which is about £95 a week I think.
That’s like losing £9000 a year!!!
That’s not £1700. ****
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I don’t think that’s very good, that a letter shared online fails to mention key elements of the benefits cut that will affect generations to come condemning them to a life in poverty
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It's Discrimination at its finest was this the only topic ??? Vile they won't get away with it throwing everything at the book to see what gets through
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https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1007454#Comment_1007454
it was just the benefits and work website. No interviews or anything. I don’t know how to post it here for you as I’m not that good at that but you can read it on their website. It sent me into a panic but mawempathy explained things and it put my mind at rest . I don’t know if you saw my earlier post about the justice journals latest video regarding ASD. Apparently she helped someone with autism who was found cured by the DWP! The woman who does the channel worked for the dwp and took them to court .
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especially on a subject that’s very badly written in the Green Paper, it is confusing as well as it hides the future implications of such change.
A change that MPs dont understand unless you point it out to them.
A change that on paper looks good but if you look deeper it’s very bad.
A change that’s misleading and can be easily challenged in court
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