Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
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So basically usually changes are introduced via statutory instruments which a court can rule illegal. Keir I expect used his previous experience to make sure these are going to be introduced via parliament primary legislation. This supersedes court decisions. A court will not be able to block changes once they have been ratified in parliament. This is why I keep talking about a small time limit for action to be taken, apparently the equality watchdog is now looking into the green paper, but they dont have very long.
https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/role/sovereignty/
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I think this is right, however this regards to change PIP rule and scrapping WCA
For the other changes I think we have more time
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Yes not everything is being rushed, the things being consulted on will take longer.
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How will UC be able to force someone to look for work (let alone do any) when said person is entirely incapable of working.
A person who was enhanced on care/Mobility, but no-longer under their new rules
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When the WCA is removed (along with LCW/LCWRA), the person will no longer be recognised as unable to work. The WCA is the current protection mechanism.
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Just as i thought; so in their mind, and on their forms, we now are cured of our illnesses @worried33
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Will be interesting to see how a previous 4 in care will hold-up in the PIP reassessment.
If it was given in the last assessment and one's condition hasnt got any better; infact worsened..How on earth could they contest that!
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They think they are magicians.
It is also worth noting unsurprisingly Reeve is annoyed that the OBR doesnt agree with her on what happens to the people who are losing support, the OBR has predicted they wont find work.4 -
They can do it by altering the descriptors that apply to your next assessment.
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Apparently they'll be creating colleges to train peoole for the construction industry.
I can't get to my notebook now, but I remember something like ten per area?
Tory or New Tory (i.e.Labour) dont they just love their high viz jackets and hard hats.
They're all merchant bankers (and that's rhyming slang).
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Mmmm! Well I receive PIP lower daily rate made up 4 x 2 points and also higher mobility rate!
The daily rate given was because I made adaptations to my house and myself!
If I were to lose this I would be unsure how adaptations could be made in a workplace to cater for my mobility?
It would be interesting too see what happens…personally I would love to return to work!
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Not really scrapping WCA more moving the goal posts and making it impossible to qualify for it.
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if they make me go up the job centre I will have to go half naked as I can’t dress my lower half. I will also more than likely have a fall and have to be taken to hospital. If they take everything away I will make sure I make it as difficult for them as possible.
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Youve misunderstood the statement
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I'm truly sorry. Hope I didn't offend.
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Currently if people do not fulfil their journal obligations they can sanction you and either reduce your UC or stop it altogether. If you are judged as fit for work then a doctors FIT note will also just likely be ignored and you will still have to meet your obligations or face consequences. It is appalling what they are intending to do to people who are vulnerable. I am ashamed of our government.
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If the government gets their way and your pip entitlement say goes to 2030 do they have honour the award to that time.
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I just read that starmer said.about pip, that it is an incentive for people not to work. Are they entirely thick.?.
Do they know that it's not means tested out of work benefit ,that you can work and claim it. Surely this needs to be spelled out to them. That some need pip in able for them to continue working.
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They are fully committed to the (in public) idea that the main blocker to work is people are not motivated. so the belief is that inducing poverty will cause a miracle.
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