Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
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I worked job centre in 90s the staff are run ragged then thiers violence and they didn't do sanctions then ! Can't imagine now it was horrific and managers used to hide in office and to get a certain amount of people into work a week and if you didn't they'd come down hard on you I just got up from my desk said noting to no one went home to bed didn't understand I was completely burnt out they kept phoning I ignored stayed in bed for days had no way pay rent it was awful I am so dyslexic and then they used to have the jobs on cards with numbers at end of day had to put them all in order I just couldn't I put them all over I don't know how I held jobs down always worked in care so alot of writing god knows how I winged it
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According to https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly2gkepel4o
In her address to MPs, Reeves said "it can't be right" to "write off" an entire generation who are out of work and improperly using Pips.
How are we supposed to use PIP ?
I never realised that there could even be an improper way to spend my benefits ……..I use mine for surviving.
Here we go again with the "out of work" - sorry Reeves but you should return to the classroom and try to understand PIP is NOT an out of work benefit…..
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I agree…where are they going to find a million disabled friendly jobs? Perhaps we should all go and join the House of Commons as MPs…..or House of Lords? Honestly there’s a huge gap between the number of perceived jobs and actual jobs for disabled people. I’ve applied for hundreds of jobs, as soon as they find out you need more than just tiny basic adaptations….you don’t even get an interview….even the DWP refused to give me a job interview!
Neatly sliding disabled people into a life of poverty and hardship will not motivate employers to employ them…..it will just frustrate and have a very detrimental effect upon us. It’s a cost cutting farce!
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Got a response from an MP who I contacted regarding the proposed cuts. The MP in question said she'll oppose these at every opportunity. I also got provided with links in the email of her doing so in the media.
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Let's say that they are getting the 6bn from reducing LCWRA from £97 to £47.
Then they will reduce the number of people on PIP and LCWRA by making assessment harder many people will lose both. Then they are stopping LCWRA in line with inflation rates. Then they are stopping claims for under 21 year olds, and people receiving carers and DLA etc will also lose entitlement. Even with the uprate to universal credit benefit to £106 (which they reduced £1, saving them a further £500 million in the statement) it will be a welfare reform of well over £10 billion in my guess. Not to mention the tactic they use to stop people benefits once you are on standard jobseekers allowance or any other way they stop it. The statement by them does not make sense they are lying about it.
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Energy bills of over 400 ppm are making it nearly impossible to carry on.
the big wound with me has kicked off, blood does not come out as lower temps
since sunday 56 pounds has been spent just on washing machine/Tumble as the weather's been horrendous. But Rachel claims her energy on expenses imagine if MP's had to pay energy then you would see prices fall.
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Thanks for sharing @egister
Sadly, it seems that while parties were formed and fought for similar ideologies supporting disabled people, they didn’t stand the test of time. 😔
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That is a very valid point. I didn't mean to sound ableist. I apologise that it came across like that.
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What really grinds my gears is how Labour purposely is conflating PIP as an out of work benefit, it is not an out of work benefit and they're doing this purposely to propagandize this view that it's a financial goldmine to have PIP, LCWRA and you get to do nothing and enjoy daytime TV with a cup of tea and bourbon biscuit.
This is a terrible conflation and really shows you how nasty these people are. PIP is an umbrella benefit for people who suffer from disabilities and or long term illnesses which effect their day to day lives, it isn't easy to get and you have to jump through hoops in order to be entitled/awarded.
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Its also being reported on bluesky by some doctors
in interviews the numbers being mentioned by ministers they are using figures
from 2010-2023 making the number appear much larger,
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I saw this on Reddit, no doubt reforming the Fit Note is going to be a plan.
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From the article:
The current Government has not laid out its stance on fit note reform, but work and pensions secretary Liz Kendall affirmed support last week for the Work Well pilots, which are ‘trialling new approaches like GPs referring people to employment advisors, instead of signing them off sick’.
It appears they do, indeed, intend to harass and bully people who are unwell.
Speaking from my own experience when I was employed, I had my GP, consultants, psychiatrists, my direct manager, HR, and my employer's Occupational Health Service on my case.
Having to also deal with some 'employment advisor' would have tipped me over the edge.
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Hi everyone,
There’s a new video from Noah Nyle , apparently there’s going to be a second green paper regarding the assessment process. I hope this I’m wrong but I think it will be about more face to face . I just hope they’ll still allow phone assessments if not paper based.
Also there’s another petition that’s been start about the cuts , this time by Labour MP Richard Burgon. Sorry I don’t know how to post the link but I found it on benefits and work0 -
I saw this on Reddit, no doubt reforming the Fit Note is going to be a plan.
The research is commissioned by DWP and its publication sponsored by….healthcare professionals!!
(References: 1. Waddell, G., & Burton, A. (2006). Is work good for your health and well-being?)
JasonRA, yes and no. The rules for Med 3 certification from a GP were amended in 2015/16 to include….healthcare professionals. These proposals are about handing all responsibility to healthcare professionals. See also:
The Social Security (Medical Evidence) and Statutory Sick Pay (Medical Evidence) Amendment Regulations 2010
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Thanks @secretsquirrel1 . Good call ….
Here’s Richard Burgon -Labour MP’s
Dont cut Disability Benefits Campaign.
Definitely worth signing and need more signatures to shake up parliament!
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These are the other campaigns gaining traction and gathering momentum:
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Improperly calling them "pips" as if it were some weird apple-related political weapon…Obvious red flag here…
I noticed that comment too, but there's zero fraud in PIP. And I didn't like the "people will just claim for more serious benefits" as if all PIP claims were fraudulent from the start…With regard to keeping medical records up to date, fine, if you have a medical related disability. Autism isn't one. There is no support in my area for autistic people like me, either - all the support I need I have to rely on from family or friends. Keeping a record is not possible because the services do not exist here.
The last time I had an actual autism worker/mentor was when I was studying, but all the ones that used to be in my area got cut. You only get support for autism now if you are a child or have a co-occurring learning disability. Which is in some ways understandable but doesn't help me much :/
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Of the handful of interviews I have done in last 15 years, the Asda one was most bizarre.
I of course informed them on the form, that I would need either ground floor or accessible lift, in order to attend.
Paid a taxi to take me 7 miles to the store, not exactly cheap. Turns out the "Asda Magic" (ritual humiliation, very US) was up two flights of stairs, with no lift!
On informing them of my predicament, the store manager was summoned. She wondered whether two strong guys could carry me up two flights of stairs, me sat on a chair!
I declined of course, and she said they would give me an interview at the new store in the city I lived, as it had a lift.
Another taxi took me home, and I immediately logged into my Asda account, only to see a message, saying something along the lines of them deciding not to take my application any further.
I think that was 2011 or 2012. I haven't secured an interview since.
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Saw this on X. James Taylor's (Scope) page. I take it the government are not going to wait for the Green Paper responses. It also seems MP's are going to vote on this before we hear from Britain's Economic Watchdog who will not publish the employment impact of these plans until October 2025. (The Guardian).😲
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Also James Taylor Scope is this on X as well.
CONFIRMED: Universal Credit and PIP cuts to be put forward in a Bill by Government soon.
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