Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)

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  • Hopeless
    Hopeless Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 1,038 Pioneering

    I remember this thing about a ‘money bill’ coming to light when they took away the extra money for LCW. The Lords stopped it initially but then the government said the Lords couldn’t do that as it was a money thing and the change went through

  • Mysteriouskitten
    Mysteriouskitten Community Member Posts: 40 Empowering

    Him and his lawyer mates will have covered every loophole to get this through.

  • Stellar
    Stellar Community Member Posts: 561 Trailblazing
    edited April 2025

    100%. Petitions, consultations and letters are useless. {Comment removed - uncivil language}

    Charities being spineless and relying on backroom lobbying (that hasn't worked for many years now) is one reason the British left is in the state that it is.

  • Stellar
    Stellar Community Member Posts: 561 Trailblazing

    did you email their MP accounts or their APPG accounts? if its the former, that's why they fobbed you off.

    if you feel comfortable naming the two MPs you contacted, that'd benefit everyone.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Community Member Posts: 677 Championing
  • Mysteriouskitten
    Mysteriouskitten Community Member Posts: 40 Empowering

    I think they are waiting for the green paper consultation to finish, then hopefully they will come out opposing the government.

  • apples
    apples Community Member Posts: 562 Empowering

    If they can pass PIP as a money bill, what about the lcw/ra can they abolish this as easy?

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,681 Championing
    edited April 2025

    hayesj@parliament.uk and sonia.kumar.mp@parliament.uk

    I do not live in either constituency - so they will not deal with me

    Those email addresses are all that they have !

  • Mysteriouskitten
    Mysteriouskitten Community Member Posts: 40 Empowering

    I meant the green paper that's already out. It runs for 12 weeks, so they are probably waiting for the conclusion to that before they speak out

  • bton1968
    bton1968 Community Member Posts: 156 Empowering

    Trump releases 20% tariffs ...

    Reeves 10 billion headroom wiped out .....

    Economy nose dives .....

    Reeves & Starmers futures cast in to doubt .….

    Our best hope ?

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 448 Empowering
    edited April 2025

    Lets hope that loophole is a startgate to take him and his demons into infinity and beyond .

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 304 Championing

    The Tories will vote with Labour to pass the changes regardless of the size of the Labour rebellion but a Labour rebellion will be damaging to Starmer and Reeves' plans.

  • bton1968
    bton1968 Community Member Posts: 156 Empowering
  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 304 Championing
    edited April 2025

    Disability charities ect may need to drop the political impartiality and create a party which doesn't follow "Left vs Right" politics but is an umbrella party/pressure group which stands for disability rights.

  • carbow32
    carbow32 Community Member Posts: 244 Empowering

    I feel psychologically battered to the ground with no fight left but I guess that is what they wanted.

  • Girl_No1
    Girl_No1 Community Member Posts: 413 Trailblazing

    What sort of damage to their plans do you envisage?

    I can see the optics being bad for them in the event of substantial Labour rebellion. However, imo, all they are invested in is having the plans enacted, irrespective of how it looks.

    They know there is no second term for them. Being perceived by the corporate world as being able to make, and enact, tough decisions, is their aim.

  • Stellar
    Stellar Community Member Posts: 561 Trailblazing

    I see. Do MPs not have specific email addresses for their ministerial parliamentary groups? If so, that's a horrid oversight.

  • bellatango
    bellatango Community Member Posts: 124 Empowering

    https://archive.is/20250401233138/https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/labour-welfare-reforms-incapacity-benefit-gqz6kt3lp

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