Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)

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  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,110 Pioneering

    That is, disabled people can only write letters, but charitable societies have secret levers of influence on the government. Clear and understandable.

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 11,423 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    I refer you to this discussion. You can read about how Scope speaks to MPs about the proposed changes.

  • Girl_No1
    Girl_No1 Online Community Member Posts: 412 Trailblazing

    It's amazing how people change once they have a glimmer of power. I used to think Bryant was a good guy with integrity - honest, reasonable, pragmatic, steady.

    He now appears to have chugged heavily on the KoolAid. 😥

  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 249 Empowering
    edited April 7

    I think the vast majority of MPs are very selfish and only looking out for themselves, only Corbyn and McDonnell along with the other Labour rebels have shown to me they stick to their principles and are worthy of representing their constituents.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,110 Pioneering

    Thanks, I know, but there's nothing about behind-the-scenes interactions...
    Has Scope suggested any other spending the government could cut so as not to cut benefits to disabled people? I don't think so.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,328 Championing

    I wouldn't have made it without this group I was in a bad way when I joined and didn't quite follow the rules Bull in a China shop comes to mind thankgod I was given a second chance and I never felt so oppressed since labour come in all these checks I understand alot of false claims didn't even relize people use false ID I've always felt empty sad all my life chasing materialistic items to give myself a buzz drinking failed marriages gosh sound like Elizabeth Taylor my head is a constant noise never stops always try to act upbeat around my daughter but can't hide it I'm awaiting adhd test and 100 percent autistic which I was just learning reading connecting made so much sense why I found everything impossible that we been taught in life born go to school get a job a partner seeing people go to work and not feel pure dread the dread that kept me hidden it's cruel I understand changes needed to happen but not this and we have been left for months guessing extremely cruel I was meant to go to cmht today I just couldn't people will never understand it's like a wars going on outside my door it's frightening I want noting to do with society when will we learn our fate ?

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,328 Championing

    This started for me 2023 since sunak speech been a rollercoaster to hell as you know holding onto to a bit of hope but feel crushing feeling wait till AI takes over some jobs someone I know had a dig saying oh I hope this person get made to get a job I replied wait till AI takes yours people think it doesn't effect me are going to get a shock I believe they are also tightening criteria is labour already now how many thousands of people losing jobs will claim uc they are ten steps ahead w

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,328 Championing

    Thanks albus I know your all working hard it's just blind panic talking

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,328 Championing

    NNew DWP planned changes to PIP and universal credit under review by committee? Can scope check if this is true also don't know if this is true Angela ranner can't spell is under investigation for manipulation of stopping some areas for may election hope makes sense

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,328 Championing

    I remember crying when Corbyn didn't get in went into a deep depression knowing what politics in about now he would of never been allowed man of the people and yes john mcdonnell good good decent human beings

  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 336 Empowering

    There's no room in the prisons, it'll be the workhouse!

  • keira
    keira Online Community Member Posts: 173 Empowering

    Can you give evidence of the effect of PIP cuts?

     Published: 07 April 2025

    Benefits and Work has created a brief, anonymous questionnaire about the PIP cuts in which your answers will immediately be published online.  The one page survey is for anyone who currently gets PIP daily living without scoring any 4 point descriptors.

    The purpose is to provide some of the evidence about who the cuts will affect and how, which the government is desperately trying to keep hidden from the public.

    So please consider completing the survey.  It will allow, campaigners, researchers, journalists, MPs and ordinary members of the public to get a better understanding of who Labour is targeting as it tries to rush through these savage cuts.

    In the survey you are asked not to give your real name or any name you routinely use online, in order to protect your privacy as your answers will be immediately published online.

    There's more information and a link to the survey here.

    https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/can-you-give-evidence-of-the-effect-of-pip-cuts

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 4,732 Championing

    jul1aorways, What about the thousands of people who are not going to be able cope!! 😮 Disabled people who are nearing or already in poverty, WHO KNOW that they will not be able to eat, pay bills or keep a roof over their head! People who face destitution, temporary accommodation or even the streets!! 😥

    Those are the people I worry about too. Not those of us with an income, home and internet access ie relatively safe circumstances.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,328 Championing
  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 4,732 Championing

    I'm frustrated that once again, an important discussion has become stifled. This isn't a blog so it's counterproductive to use it like one. I don't know how to express this any more politely.

    😕

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Online Community Member Posts: 420 Empowering

    would you be re-assessed for PIP under the new rules once you are due re-assement ?

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 4,732 Championing

    My concern is thatpossible reforms coulddominate the narrative while a delayed reassessment programme under the last reforms is being scaled up right now!

    In 2023 we were 'scaremongering' ☹️

    That was me as a new member trying to warn people about the changes already made to ESA…

    We need to revisit the 2011 amended ESA regulations, the Welfare Reform Act 2012 and the Welfare Reform and WORK Act 2016.

    PDQ

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 309 Championing

    WhatThe. (I ask as you in my opinion have a lot of knowledge, a compliment based on what I've read on this thread)

    What in your opinion is the end goal of Labour's plans? Will their Green and White papers get watered down and in the past did the Tories and the Labour government during the 2000s push for cuts and reforms and how were the outcomes?

    I only started claiming incapacity orientated benefits in 2023, I held off for years and that made my situation far worse. So my historical knowledge of Government attacks on disability/incapacity benefits is slim.

    I have studied the importance of the Human Rights act 1998 and Equalities Act 2010 when it comes to government's of the day going after disabled people so surely there's a line in the sand between proportionate reforms to cruel and disproportionate actions.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 4,732 Championing

    JasonRA, thank you very much!

    Look up the 2011 amended ESA regs then read the Green Paper, White Paper, Committee report etc

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