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  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    I agree with you that it's doubtful that money is the issue. It's the ideology behind this minor amount in savings that this is all about.

    Starmer and Co have set themselves up as a party for people who work. It's not for the working class any longer. If you are unable to work, like us or you are too young or old to work, they regard you as an unnecessary burden, costing the country money. Yes, isn't it evil. 😳

    I think you meant the ECHR, the European Court of Human Rights. They are already discriminating against the human rights of disabled children.

    I've just read about the SEND (Special Educational Needs and Disabilities) children where the government are now trying to stop their funding. They will then have to be taught in a mainstream school which will really disadvantage them educationally and leave them at much greaterrisk of being bullied by other children. 😡

    It's disgraceful but hardly surprising. The monsters who are supposed to be governing the country are using every way they can to sideline the disabled, whatever their age. As far as they are concerned, only fit and able people of working age who do work deserve anything at all. 😤

    I agree that their priorities are completely immoral and wrong and have nothing to do with what amount of money is allocated and to where but with their political choices in trying to compete with the odious Nigel Farage and his equally vile colleagues in Reform UK. 🤮

    The problem with taxing the gambling sites is that the companies that run them will pass the extra costs of that tax on to their vulnerable customers, many of who will be gambling addicts, making life even worse for them.

    I would not like to think that any U turn of any kind should be achieved by making people who have gambling addiction pay even more to do so, putting them into more debt, poverty and misery.

    How grotesque this government has become. 👺

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    Hi jul ,

    it was the send kids I meant , I think it’s the echp or similar they want to stop. It’s weird as once I heard about the 2 child limit scrapped I thought to myself, but what about the disabled children? They’ll grow up to probably be disabled adults and Starmer hates them .

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    I don't think Scope will mind it too much, it's a good lookalike of her (and very funny) , I'm sure NO10 don't have cabinet meetings if she attends, more like a coven sat around their cauldrons brewing up evil schemes against us, double, double, toil and trouble Liz Kendall burn, and cauldron bubble😆

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    We all need a laugh at times like this Martin, especially with these clowns in office.

    Keep well.😊

  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Community Member Posts: 194 Empowering

    I have decided to wait until it's made law and deal with it after that. I written to my MP and others and sign petition . There nothing more I feel I can do now.

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Community Member Posts: 1,489 Championing

    This means they must know it will leave us destitute.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I think it’s the one pic of her that may be ok to post 😂. It reminded me of a favourite film Horror Hotel . I’m sure Catherine will know 😂

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I could be wrong but I think they slyly mean instead of the 5 week wait for basic uc they’ll continue to give us pip . Same as now , when you transfer over from legacy you get an extra payment of esa legacy after you transfer . But how can we legally claim uc and agree to job searches when we know we can’t ?

  • Martinp
    Martinp Community Member Posts: 248 Empowering

    Sky news political commentator says we will be given more time to prepare and to claim other benefits, what are these benefits?

    Just shows they haven’t got a bloody clue, speaking utter nonsense

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I don’t know how this will even work out . If I lose pip and automatically lcwra I then have to apply for uc basic and agree to job searches. I physically cannot sign up for that as I’m either resting or sleeping most of my time. So what benefit would I claim ? There isn’t one . I think they mean once we lose pip we get TP while we wait for uc basic to kick in . So maybe one extra payment as they do now for esa legacy going to uc lcwra

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    Hi all,

    I haven’t yet filled out the consultation but I just had an idea that when I do I will suggest actual descriptors for fatigue as for those of us suffering from ME, fibromyalgia, long Covid and MH fatigue is a major symptom. I think it may be a good idea to write to them again. I know they don’t care but an actual descriptor for a main symptom of a lot of conditions would help us .

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    I'm creating a new character called Little Miss Loathsome (from the Mr.Men books by Roger Hargreaves) I'll post it on here when Iv'e done it. Give us all a laugh hopefully.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing
  • Community_Scope
    Community_Scope Posts: 2,432 Online Community Team

    Hello everyone,

    Please remember to keep in mind our house rules.

    We'll be tidying up this discussion over the next couple of days as it's important that people who want information relating to the Green Paper are easily able to find it.

    All the best,

    Charlie

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    Hi Catherine, has it been on news or elsewhere about them delaying the vote in June? I might have missed it as I try to avoid certain news media (due to lies etc) Iv'e looked on Benefits & Work site but can't see anything on there either, only about Starmers 'tweaks' to give us more time……for what exactly, having a cupper, changing the bedding?????? The man is deluded and so out of touch with reality, he'll be gone by end of year, his own party hate him, can't wait until he flip flops off.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    Hi Catherine,

    I just emailed her . I think part of the problem, for me anyway, is the descriptors are vague and not aimed at particular conditions. With people suffering from long Covid , ME etc fatigue is a major symptom. I think I’ll email the other clowns again too .

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    You will find that is a narcissistic trait, the assumption that as we are disabled, either physically and/or mentally plus we are unfortunately, completely dependent on them for our income that we are too weak and would be too shocked by the sheer scale of the cuts that we would be easy pickings and they wouldn't get much resistance from us.

    How wrong were they!! ✊

    They didn't realise just how much we would mobilse, because we have had to. We are not just getting smaller sized cuts as we've done in the past, they are cutting huge amounts of income from us so we have had to find our resistance to them from somewhere, however ill we are. They really underestimated us. 💪

    We have thrown everything we can at getting the truth about the impact of the proposals out there to everyone who can make a difference, to conteract the constant gaslighting of the government leadership.

    They are an insult to our intelligence and to that of DPOs, backbench Labour MPs, Amnesty etc. They carry on in their own little world of great entitlement not knowing just how idiotic they look! 🤪

    I agree that you really do have to be very discerning about what type of media you take information from and make sure that you look at a lot of different sources while you are choosing.

    It's said that what comes around goes around and I also believe that Loathsome Liz and Co will eventually reap what they have sown.

    I hope that they go down as badly as possible and I'm glad that we will be such a large part of that fall in opposing them in a way that I believe, they never expected us to be capable of doing. ✊

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    Hi Charlie,

    I think it’s extra time to claim other benefits ( uc basic I think ) or make other arrangements. So transitional protection. I think there’s a post on the forum somewhere.

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