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Hi Squirrel 🐿️

I couldn't quite understand what you'd put down, I must admit. I know what that's like, with brain fog and wonder if the community may be too polite to tell me that my posts my be somewhat confused at times! 🤣

The ministers are trying a lot of different things to try to head of the huge revolt from Labour. If they thought the vote was going their way they wouldn't feel the need to keep trying it on. I think that it shows that things are going our way.

Labour MPs have insisted on the fact that they are not going to be swayed by tweaks. I hope that we can trust them on that! I think that there's a reasonable chance that we can though.

Kendall gets her big meeting in front of all the party's rebels today. All those really awkward questions, I wouldn't like to be in her shoes! 😉 I hope they REALLY drag her over the coals. 😁

I didn't know that and am shocked to hear that it's such a low number! Perhaps because I am one of this low number I have subconsciously overestimated the number that get 4 points in my mind, I don't know. The other alternative is the struggle I have with brain fog due to my ME, I find that I don't always get things right I'm afraid.

I didn't intend to do that and I agree that I should be more careful in the future.

However, everyone makes mistakes and perhaps you should remember that the people on this community are disabled in all sorts of different ways and are all struggling to express ourselves properly due to all sorts of health challenges.

We are also each currently going through circumstances that no human being should have to go through with the proposed cuts!

I think that you could have put your issue to me in a kinder way. I know we are all under great pressure as disabled people at this time but please remember that we are all better off making the effort to work together rather than fall out with each other over aspects of these proposals.

That is just what the Labour leadership want us to do, so they can win, so wouldn't it be better to work together, in the face of such a great common enemy? 🤔

I agree and I never thought I’d say it but just leave pip the way it is . They obviously aren’t going to change it for the better for us so leave it. I was just wondering if the maths add up . If most people on standard lose pip plus 13% on enhanced how much much is that over a year . Then of course lcwra and carers . Have the put the figure of £3.5-£5 billion out there when really it’ll be higher

And we all just guessing and using facts and figures that can’t be verified as that’s the way labour wants it. Remember starmer saying he’s starting a new government with transparency. What a joke

Morning juls ,

Yes the brain fog , fatigue and pain hit at once I’m afraid but I was determined to work out what they meant by not needing a 4? Point if you score a higher score. I suddenly get obsessive even when my brain isn’t functioning 😂

What I meant to say ( I think 🙄😂) was on another site it was mentioned that the government said if they allow a claim of pip for those with a high score overall without the 4 it amounts to 200,00 extra people claiming. There are currently 209,00 on enhanced without a 4 . So it seems logical it allows anyone on enhanced to continue getting pip . So they’re really imo focusing on standard which is what they’ve always wanted. No more standard is their goal imo . Obviously it’s all my opinion and the figures are perhaps incorrect. I don’t even know if I’m making any more sense tbh 😂

that’s good was she on the list of labour mps voting against

I read on another site a post from someone who emailed her mp . The mp replied that only 10% ( still too high) would lose pip . That’s the figures they’ve been told and I saw an article in The I newspaper saying the same thing . But this mp seemed to believe it or insisted it was true anyway.