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Catherine, I'm not sure there was an actual meeting. Based on the letter from Debbie Abrahams to Liz Kendall on 21 May 2025, it appears that Liz had until 2 June 2025 to respond to the committee in writing, so I don’t believe it was an in-person session. Her response will be published once it is received.
I’ve copied and pasted the link below. When you open it, click on: Correspondence with the Secretary of State, relating to the Pathways to Work Green Paper the entry dated 21 May 2025, as that’s the most recent correspondence. The links are not listed in date order.
https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/164/work-and-pensions-committee/publications/
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@Catherine21 I could not get the link to work so copied the letter at the end you will see Liz had until 02 June 2025 to respond.
Rt Hon Liz Kendall MP
Secretary of State for Work and Pensions
Department for Work and Pensions
(By e-mail only)
Dear Liz,
Pathways to Work Green Paper
As you might be aware, my Committee is conducting an inquiry into the Pathways to Work Green Paper. We have taken oral evidence from a range of stakeholders, including disabled people’s organisations, disability charities, and academics, and received written evidence from other organisations. While we plan to publish our report in due course, we are writing now to set out key findings and recommendations in respect of two significant reforms—changes to eligibility for the daily living component of the Personal Independence Payment (PIP) and the rebalancing of Universal Credit (UC) rates—because these are to be legislated for very soon.
In summary, we strongly support the Government’s ambition to reform the social security system, including incapacity and disability benefits. We also recognise the financial challenges the Government faces and the desire to reduce spending on health-related benefits, particularly by supporting more disabled people into work. However, we have concerns about potential unintended consequences of the proposed legislative changes, the sequencing of reforms, and the lack of a full impact assessment.
In light of these concerns, we ask the Government to delay any changes to PIP eligibility until it has completed its review of the PIP assessment. We also ask the Government to delay changes to UC rates, as evidence indicates these may not improve employment outcomes for most claimants, but instead risk pushing many into poverty and further away from the labour market.
Changes to PIP Eligibility and UC Rates
The Government will shortly legislate to require a PIP claimant to score at least four points in at least one activity of the daily living component to qualify for that component. It will also rebalance UC rates by freezing UC health support for existing claimants and almost halving it for new claimants from April 2026. In addition, the standard allowance will increase by £7 a month. For those receiving the reduced UC health rate after April 2026 who have the most severe, lifelong health conditions, the Government is proposing an additional premium and a guarantee that they will never be reassessed.
However, it is unclear when legislation for the additional premium will be introduced, and the Green Paper provides no detail on how eligibility for this premium will be determined. These changes are the first to be implemented from a broader package of proposals.
The Case for Reform
The Government justifies these changes by stating that spending on health-related benefits is financially unsustainable, noting a £20 billion increase since the pandemic and a projected further £18 billion rise by the end of the Parliament. It also highlights that the number of working-age individuals receiving health-related benefits has increased at twice the rate of disability prevalence.
While this concern is valid, evidence we received suggests the cost of working-age welfare should be viewed as a whole (including both health and non-health-related spending) and as a proportion of GDP. Measured this way, current spending levels are roughly the same as in 2007. Though spending on health-related benefits has increased by 0.9 percentage points since 2007-08, this has been offset by a 0.8 percentage point reduction in other areas, such as child and working-age adult support. The Green Paper acknowledges this.
The rise in working-age health-related spending can also be partially explained by prior benefit cuts, including the post-2015 benefits freeze, the benefit cap, and the two-child limit—measures that have increasingly affected more people over time.
The Government claims that changes to UC rates will promote work, reduce perverse incentives, and improve basic adequacy. In particular, it refers to issues in the incapacity benefit system that have incentivised people to claim higher support, such as the removal of the LCW payment in 2017 and the real-terms reduction in the UC standard allowance. These changes have significantly increased the value of support for claimants found to have limited capability for work and work-related activity (LCWRA). This point is supported by the Office for Budget Responsibility and the Lords Economic Affairs Committee. We are inclined to agree that the current benefit design likely creates incentives for some to seek LCWRA status.
However, other factors may also be driving the increase in claims, including worsening physical and mental health, growing financial insecurity among disabled people, and exclusion from the labour market, exacerbated by the rising state pension age. If these are indeed key drivers, the legislative changes may not boost employment as hoped, but instead deepen poverty, worsen health outcomes—especially in more deprived areas—and move people further from the labour market, as previous reforms have shown.
Timing of the Changes
We believe the Government understands the complex relationship between work and health and the underlying drivers of health-related welfare spending. This is reflected in the Get Britain Working White Paper and much of the Pathways to Work Green Paper. However, we are not convinced that the Government should proceed with changes to PIP eligibility and UC rates before other measures in the Green Paper—such as the review of the PIP assessment—are implemented, or before more detail is provided about critical proposals like the additional premium.
It is also problematic that MPs are expected to vote on these changes without a full impact assessment. The version released with the Green Paper, as well as the OBR’s costings, excluded the impact of many of the reforms, including the abolition of the Work Capability Assessment and increased investment in employment support.
Conclusions and Recommendations
We ask the Government to delay changes to PIP eligibility and UC rates, extend and expand the current consultation, and co-produce measures with disabled people and their organisations—reflecting the Government’s stated commitment to “nothing about me, without me.” We strongly recommend a precautionary approach, and that the Government immediately commission an independent, comprehensive analysis of the impact of the proposed UC health support reductions on employment, poverty, and health outcomes.
We also urge the Government to delay its plans to amend the PIP daily living component eligibility criteria, and instead engage with disabled people and their organisations to co-produce any changes as part of the ongoing PIP review. It is essential that those who genuinely need PIP do not lose support. Once new proposals are developed, they should be published and opened to proper consultation.
I would be grateful for your response to these conclusions and recommendations by Monday 2 June 2025. As is standard practice for Committee correspondence, I will be publishing this letter and your response on the Committee’s website.
Yours sincerely,
Debbie Abrahams MP
Chair, Work and Pensions Committee
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Even with all medical evidence I’ve been given zero points . And it’s not just assessors either. The tribunal not only awarded no points but tried to remove points if been given by a MR. The worst person on the panel was the disabled person. I ended up going to the upper tribunal as the dwp admitted they erred in law .
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Thanks for that, I was worried it might be to force you into work (mandatory) surely there are those of us who just can't work because of mental or physical illness, can we just say thanks, but not interested, too unwell and they say no worries we'll contact you again in a few months?
I know you don't know all the answers, you seem a bit more clued up than me about this green paper thing!!😊
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Thankyou
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IIf I'm correct she doesn't have to listen to these recommendations? If that's the case she will press on with them doesn't it feel like this has been going on for years
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There is a article on GB news about Liz Kendall facing MPs behind closed doors I've tried to upload link on here but don't know if being checked as ain't come on
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They were playing up to the dwp rep who was also there .
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Yes I agree that it depends on how you come across which could be different each time and that depends on the vibes you get from the person doing the assessment and not putting over what you need to jepordising your claim. Last time I froze and panicked and went to appeal
This is why paper assessment would eradicate this you'd be genuine to both people. Like a driving test as opposed to being judged over 30 mins get a better impression over a longer period of time like what would happen via GP.
I sent a letter from my GP and they contacted her but all the info she gave could be insignificant depending on assessors impression of me who doesn't know me.
I guess you keep getting pip until a decision is made as it takes a while I've heard too.
Regards
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Parliamentary committees have a lot of influence, even though the Government doesn’t have to follow their advice. I agree Catherine It does feel like this has been going on forever.
It’s frustrating to hear all the political back-and-forth, especially for disabled people waiting on decisions about their future finances. But sometimes that talking is what stops bad decisions.
The slow questioning, debates and delays help hold those in power accountable and give us a better chance of fairer outcomes. If the Government listens to the recommendations, we could see positive changes that truly support disabled people.
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https://www.gbnews.com/politics/liz-kendall-address-labour-mps-keir-starmer-revolt-dwp-benefits-crackdown
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Behavioural Effects ????? Haven't shared all
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Very true very true thankyou hope you are well
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Very true very true thankyou hope you are well
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@bton1968 makes me anxious about my tomorrow reassessment, me thinking that the new harder to score points comes in next year, I have 10 points in daily living for unfamiliar places and two's for other things.
@secretsquirrel1 my GP says she will eat her hat if what with all evidence she has given via a letter she gave me to send and what she said when they contacted her. I've got notes, stuff about my last claim where I scored etc. things I've read making me really worried about tomorrow morning 😔 even though I was told it is better to have reassessment now than after Nov next year.
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