Green Paper Related Discussions

I actually rang Scope about this issue, they said they know nothing about this money bill next week, probably because it doesn't exist!! If you google about it you'll find nothing apart from one website, Politico, as usual they don't say where this info came from, but usually these clickbait sites always say 'from a source, or a source close to Politico has said'.

If it was true it would have been on tv news, radio programs, disability sites, DPAC etc as it's that serious, my advice would be don't click on these sites, they scaremonger and just want clicks, they don't have our best interests at heart, just their own greedy self serving ones. And yes, your'e correct it's the same person posting about this each day, like I say it needs reporting to Scope if it carries on, people are now worried and anxious about it, ring Scope they'll tell folk it's nonsense.

There is no credible evidence that Labour is attempting to push welfare reforms through using a Money Bill—which is a special parliamentary procedure that limits scrutiny—although they are certainly pressing ahead with significant welfare changes via the standard legislative route.

Here’s what we do know:

🔍 What’s actually happening

• Labour is moving forward with major welfare savings (about £5 bn by 2029/30), including major changes to Personal Independence Payments (PIP) and the health-related elements of Universal Credit theguardian.com+9news.sky.com+9theguardian.com+9ft.com+1independent.co.uk+1.
• These reforms follow the Spring Statement of 26 March 2025, and are being processed via standard Commons and Lords scrutiny and votes—not through the Money Bill process .
• The work-and-pensions secretary, Liz Kendall, has outright stated that Labour won’t back down on these reforms, with parliamentary votes expected later in the year thetimes.co.uk+6news.sky.com+6theguardian.com+6.

🛑 Why no Money Bill

• A Money Bill can only cover taxation, spending from the Consolidated Fund, or National Debt charges, and must receive a certificate from the Speaker (per the Parliament Act).
• Welfare eligibility and benefit thresholds are policy matters, not core funding mechanisms — so they don’t qualify as Money Bills.

✅ In conclusion

• Labour’s welfare changes are real and substantial, but they're being pursued through the normal legislative process, with all the usual scrutiny and opportunities for amendment—not via a Money Bill.
• I found no reputable reporting or credible statements suggesting an attempt to bypass parliamentary oversight by treating them as a Money Bill.

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The first reading of the welfare reform (cuts) bill will be on 18th June 2025 The second reading and the vote will be on 3rd July 2025


First reading of the Welfare Reform Bill will be next week - 18 June 2025. The second reading and vote will be on 3 July 2025.

Hi loucie,

I always got the impression the Tory green paper was a last ditch attempt to win the election and not a serious attempt at stopping pip . It was rushed to the point that it wasn’t even accepted in court . Labour according to Ellen Clifford fought tooth and nail and when they lost made sure their bill is water tight.
They’re spending all this money on net zero but have said they’re not interested in saving wildlife or even swift boxes in new homes . Not only do they want to see us homeless but even birds . Complete bunch of psychopaths. Even Tony Blair saved the foxes fgs . Usually I can find something good in a party as I don’t support one in particular but this lot as vile . God I’d love to see this voted down not only for our sakes but to see the look on their faces .

This is a test of mental endurance, I failed that test on Tuesday, just broke down in anger and tears but don't feel despondent there are people who do care and it's not some BS, it's legitimate care.

You have done a tremendous job and getting replies, we will get there 👍x

They can be confident now but come 4 years time they’d better not come to my door