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  • dannistar
    dannistar Online Community Member Posts: 335 Empowering

    Hello

    I can’t read all the above nor take it in, has any decisions been made in concrete regarding pip etc please ?

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 777 Championing

    Liz kendall dares to call cutting social security payments to some of the poorest and most vulnerable people in the country compassion and dignity!

    This is literally adding insult to injury.

    This woman is the perfect embodiment of evil!

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,042 Championing

    Funny it was after a conversation about the assessors though 🤷‍♀️

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,042 Championing
  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 2,666 Championing

    I get enhanced rates for both components. My award letter uses the word "ongoing", which they consider synonymous with 10 years.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,042 Championing
    edited June 18

    Oh wow good for you ❤️. What a relief that must of been. Can I ask had you filled out a review form before you received that ? I ask as my awards up next Feb and I haven’t received a form yet . Was this recent or years ago . Right now I don’t know what they’re doing. I do think I should have I even gotten longer with ME and fibromyalgia plus other conditions as they can’t be cured . I even should have gotten a 4point but got a 2 instead . Thank you so much for sharing that , it gives me hope 🙏

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,398 Championing

    Hello Amy and welcome to Scope.

    This whole situation is really confusing and a lot to take in, especially when it affects so many people’s lives so directly. I’ve been trying to make sense of it too.

    You’re right, under the new plans, you will need to score at least 4 points in one PIP daily living activity. This is stricter than before, because instead of adding points from different activities, you must get four points in a single activity to qualify for any award. This means some people who currently get PIP might no longer be eligible. The mobility element of PIP will remain the same.

    Universal Credit, this part is a bit harder to explain, but I’ll do my best. Right now, if you’re too unwell to work, you can get extra money added to your UC called the health element.

    From April 2026, that extra money will only go to new claimants who have a very severe, lifelong condition that will never improve. The worrying part is the government hasn’t said exactly which conditions count, so many of us are left in limbo.

    If you’re already getting that extra money before April 2026, you will keep it at the rate it is today, but it won’t rise with inflation, so over time it will be worth less.

    From 2028, they will also stop using the current Work Capability Assessment and instead use the PIP assessment to decide if you qualify for the health element. This could make it harder for some people to get support.

    You are definitely not alone in feeling overwhelmed by it all, I certainly am, as are most of our members.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 2,666 Championing

    I fear "The Guardian" is scaremongering, which is understandable today. The PIP descripters and a claimant's ability to perform an activity safely, reliably, in a timely fashion, and so forth has not changed and there is no mention of change in the text of the Bill.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,042 Championing

    Is it normal to have enhanced for both but just a short award ? I got my enhanced mobility back at MR. I should of asked for longer then but badly advised

  • bellatango
    bellatango Online Community Member Posts: 105 Empowering
    edited June 18

    Does your award have a date though zipz?

    Mine says "ongoing" and on the next page after 2029

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  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 777 Championing

    I've never come across that disagreeing is offensive anywhere else!😀

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,042 Championing

    I think Starmer must have a part time side hustle as a scope snitch . He doesn’t like free speech either

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,042 Championing

    I thought they were reputable. I did think it was random

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,042 Championing

    The million of us that they want to leave destitute are apparently fakes who are taking from the genuine apparently

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 2,530 Championing
    edited June 18

    Why don't they just say what they mean when they say what " the most severe conditions" are?

    They are like a bunch of headless chickens or circus clowns without a single brain cell between them.

    Honestly, I despair.

    Who on earth voted them in?

    I can hold my head up high and say that I didn't.

    I always disliked Starmer and everyone in his cabinet.

  • pinkrose
    pinkrose Online Community Member Posts: 170 Empowering

    Yes secretsquirrel1 it's very normal . I have enhanced for both but have only ever had 3 year awards, from beginning and at review. It baffles me because I have multiple progressive auto immune diseases. So I do feel a bit peeved that I haven't had an ongoing award.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 2,666 Championing
    edited June 18

    A friend was awarded enhanced for both DL and mobility for 3 years. It was obvious her condition would not improve though it's not progressive. Covid arrived and her reassessment was delayed. A year or so later she was reassessed on paper ("light touch") and given an ongoing/10 year award.

    It's probably normal. Suppose someone has a major heart attack, stroke, or injury. They're helpless but could recover 100%.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 2,666 Championing
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,042 Championing

    Oh I’d love some good luck like that . My first assessment took two years fighting to upper tier . Second one was during Covid , was told they’re only doing paper based so I’ll be fine . Then they extended my award until it wasn’t paper based but phone . A quick review ended up a two hour interrogation. My advisor gave me wrong advice and I had to have a MR done by myself. I said to the assessor why do they keep doing this when there’s no cure ? She said I’ll write that down and then gave me two years. Even dwp added a year

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