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I’m a bit confused as the descriptors in the schedule 7 are what is first needed for lcwra and they’re saying fog severe they need to be constant . So if say you pass with the mobility descriptor to pass as constant wouldn’t you have to prove you can only walk the distance constant and not have a good day ? My symptoms fluctuate throughout the day with no good days at all but that’s because I have several conditions all with symptoms that trigger each other if that makes.sense

Wouldn’t changing descriptors have to go to the vote though ?

Hi @secretsquirrel1 - it's just to my mind, & I have a somewhat medical background as a long retired physio (tho I still read about medical matters) that absolutely no-one will be the same from day to day as far as their symptoms go. This is all about the 'descriptors' in a life long condition that as far as medical knowledge currently goes is not going to improve. In your case there's no treatment that can help according to the NICE guidelines. Difficult for the DWP to go against that.

So, if the descriptor usually applies, & I can't see how the DWP can dispute this, then usually such a descriptor will normally 'constantly' apply.

I don't think the wording helps as they are avoiding the use of the word 'usually' (I think to avoid fluctuating conditions), but if you have been placed in the LCWRA group, I don't see how they can ascertain that any descriptor absolutely has to be 'constant' if you otherwise qualify with a life long condition that has been diagnosed by someone in the NHS.

To put it another way, the LCWRA descriptor is correct, & always will be (unless you report a 'Change of circumstances' & would be re-assessed & things therefore might change). The LCWRA is the constant, but this can't physically or mentally be for every minute of the day; it just wouldn't be possible.

I don't know but it's been mooted on a respected disability news site, repeated in B & W comments, and is now all over X, Facebook, Reddit. A move like this would wipe me out. I collapsed when I read this news. It's on YouTube now:

https://youtu.be/KbQgc7qNLG0?si=N0yNzhKmtdY0cKQC 

The only vote MPs need to be making is a vote of no confidence against starmer.

I know it will probably never happened anyway :(

I don't buy for a minute that there are that many people a day being awarded pip

What they’re doing makes no sense especially if they say they’re trying to get people to work. This would prove they’re lying as more people won’t be able to work.