Green Paper Related Discussions

This is all about cutting social security payments to as many claimants as possible and nothing else.

In fact, all the three, as you've stated three points, are spot on.

I’m a bit confused as the descriptors in the schedule 7 are what is first needed for lcwra and they’re saying fog severe they need to be constant . So if say you pass with the mobility descriptor to pass as constant wouldn’t you have to prove you can only walk the distance constant and not have a good day ? My symptoms fluctuate throughout the day with no good days at all but that’s because I have several conditions all with symptoms that trigger each other if that makes.sense

Wouldn’t changing descriptors have to go to the vote though ?

Hi @secretsquirrel1 - it's just to my mind, & I have a somewhat medical background as a long retired physio (tho I still read about medical matters) that absolutely no-one will be the same from day to day as far as their symptoms go. This is all about the 'descriptors' in a life long condition that as far as medical knowledge currently goes is not going to improve. In your case there's no treatment that can help according to the NICE guidelines. Difficult for the DWP to go against that.

So, if the descriptor usually applies, & I can't see how the DWP can dispute this, then usually such a descriptor will normally 'constantly' apply.

I don't think the wording helps as they are avoiding the use of the word 'usually' (I think to avoid fluctuating conditions), but if you have been placed in the LCWRA group, I don't see how they can ascertain that any descriptor absolutely has to be 'constant' if you otherwise qualify with a life long condition that has been diagnosed by someone in the NHS.

To put it another way, the LCWRA descriptor is correct, & always will be (unless you report a 'Change of circumstances' & would be re-assessed & things therefore might change). The LCWRA is the constant, but this can't physically or mentally be for every minute of the day; it just wouldn't be possible.

All they want is to legislate the 4pt based scoring system and cuts to LCWRA. The rest would follow without any major obstacles, if any.

They might even scrap the WCA earlier and ask people both new and existing claimants to be assessed via the new 4pt based PIP assessment from Nov. 2026 onwards, saying that since it's in place, why wait till 2028 to scrap the WCA.

I don't know but it's been mooted on a respected disability news site, repeated in B & W comments, and is now all over X, Facebook, Reddit. A move like this would wipe me out. I collapsed when I read this news. It's on YouTube now:

https://youtu.be/KbQgc7qNLG0?si=N0yNzhKmtdY0cKQC 

kier probably blackmailing MPs

https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/uk-politics/keir-starmer-rebellion-welfare-reforms/

"Labour MP Liz Kendall previously said there are 1,000 new Pip awards every day – “the equivalent of adding a city the size of Leicester every single year”."

I assume this figure include teenagers coming off DLA and applying for PIP. If so, Kendall gives another false impression.