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I really don't think it's going to be a Money Bill… but I've been wrong before.
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It can't go through as a money bill in entirety as U.C and pip are policy matters, AGAIN i keep saying this to people ( not you squirrel), yes some parts like spending on LCWRA and pip (but not changing eligibility etc) technically could do. The most important parts of the 'reforms' like changing the eligibility for pip, 4 point rule, changing descriptors etc would still have to go through parliament in the normal way. I would advise ring scope or CAB to get proper answers and NOT what someone has seen on YouTube etc which does not tell the whole story of money bills in relation to pip and LCWRA. More scaremongering again on this forum, I'll never use it again, it's made my mental health worse with negative, false comments and some people being nasty about others comments (again not you squirrell)
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There’s lots of talk of it being a money bill on social media and YouTube disability expert commentators and on jeramy Corbyn’s letter ,I get there is no concrete evidence but it really wouldn’t surprise me if what it was put forward as one hearing all the talk and the way this government acts.
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Morning MW ,
I wrote to Jeremy for clarification regarding this but as yet I haven’t received a reply. I imagine they’re extremely busy with emails right now . Could starmer announce it as a money last minute hence he’s cancelling their right to abstain?
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Morning Charlie,
I think it’s been started by Jeremy writing it on that letter. I have emailed him to ask but no reply yet.
As you say how can it be a money bill ? They could literally do the same for all new legislation as everything costs money.
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That women on justice journals spreads all sorts of **** .... Steve is a nice fella it seems but as you say all he does is read out articles from the internet , he's basically just reading from the articles , which is part of the problem really , I mean how many times have we been up one minute then down the next , all from media and newspapers that just pour petrol on the flames
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I had to delete her Danny . She actually twists things for clicks . Steve doesn’t, he reports things as they come out on benefits and work etc . Rich on dynamic duo is good as he knows the process and used to work at the dwp .
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Hi Catherine,
I had to delete her , she didn’t exactly tell the truth and clearly has a personal agenda against the dwp
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Best thing to do if you worry or are concerned about the cuts is, don't watch youtube at all or click on anything to do with information that isn't official.
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It's up to the Speaker whether a Bill can be presented as a Money Bill. This Bill does not fit the criteria. I honestly believe this is scaremongering and we're scared enough.
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@charlie72 Take care but please don't disappear. You give so much.
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Thanks for posting some common sense on this subject, I tried to last week saying the exact same thing from reliable sources like Scope, CAB, Gov.Uk site, still people posted links on YouYube, Daily Mail etc, who obviously don't have our best interests at heart. No doubt this will carry on, I understand people wanting to know what's going on with these 'refrorms', I'm one of them too, but online social media, YouTube, Online rags like Daily Mail are not reliable or disability friendly sources, theyn just cause more fear, stress, anxiety, and arguments on forums like this which are meant to help people and be a friendly space.
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not scaremongering just asking legitimate questions in a forum about genuine information I have seen
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I find her spiteful Catherine. It’s one for YouTubers to read something and report it only to find it’s not true , but I was finding she was deliberately misleading to scare people. She has some kind of subscription where you I assume pay her for her help . So apart from the fact she’s ex dwp who took them to court so she has a grudge it also benefits her to make us scared so we subscribe and I assume pay for her services. Dynamic duo I’ve found to be factual and they’ll say if they can’t clarify something. It’s not the type of channel that charges you for their help or advice. There are also dwp members that watch and comment who support the channel.
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same she came up on suggestions on YouTube absolute clickbate
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Yes she’s horrible. Really playing into our fears. One video she made claim that I can’t remember now but it was fake news . She used the fact she’s ex dwp to support these claims insisting she knows what she’s talking about. When people went to the comments to say she’s wrong she called them trolls and blocked them . Nasty woman .
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wasn’t it that there already using 4 Points now or something, I read the comments and on her YouTube and they were savage
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That was one incident but they was another . I think to do with lcwra and dwp starting assessments on new rules or something. Other times she’s said things such as dwp already stopping people’s pip without warning . Then you work it out that the person in question didn’t send their review form back or contact dwp . .
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I'm sorry. I wasn't accusing you personally of scaremongering. I think the idea of the Bill being a Money Bill is so unlikely that media that peddle it are scaremongering.
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