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The comment in the Times this morning from Reeves that the rebellion will 'devastate' the government.

Maybe think of that before devastating disabled people's lives.

This itself is not a no confidence vote, however. Voting on/against the welfare bill does not constitute a vote of no confidence in the government. There would have to be a vote of no confidence explicitly levelled at the government in order for that to happen.

The Labour MPs opposing this bill have not necessarily opposed Starmer on other bills, and are not necessarily of the mind to call a vote of no confidence. They also have a good majority, so I think if it did come to that stage, Labour MPs would protect their own interests and vote against the motion.

This is scaremongering to try and frighten the rebels back into line. It's pretty disgusting but I don't suppose it will work if nothing else has.

The answer for Starmer is to back down and scrap the bill, engage with disabled people in a full consultation, invest in employment equality and then come back to the discussion in a year or two.

If there is an election, by the way, it is very bad news for us given Reform's surge in the polls and Farage's desire to eradicate the majority of the welfare state, as well as equality legislation. Labour even in their current state are a safer option because there are so many Labour MPs trying to change the rhetoric.

You’re so right Amaya, our best chance is unfortunately Labour . I hope this removes starmer and someone less hateful replaces him

Fantastic post. Labour has the majority to anticipate two terms. A cautious and compassionate, non-rushed approach was the way to go. It could have been so different.

Matter of speech how to put it if I'm not clued up on things let's hope it all works out

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Cabinet ministers have been given lists of Labour MPs to ring. Hit the phones and twist the arms, are the instructions from the prime minister to his senior team.

But, so far at least, it isn't working.''

Also the guardian

Pippa Crerar - The Guardian - latest post on X.

NEW: Angela Rayner says the government *will* press on with vote on welfare reform bill next week despite huge rebellion. "We will go ahead on Tuesday," she says, after telling them Labour wouldn't "walk away" from millions trapped in the failing system.