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But as thier experiencing it's not that easy that's why they wanted to pass without impact statements labour mps been amazing but even before that the pushback was fierce look at Rwanda all dramatics noting happened so if reform got in push back would be the same they can't just cut the welfare state oh they wish they could but they can't big big bullies the world's thier stage all lousy actors I'd sack thier coach

I read this earlier. So if I understand it, they drag the concessions consultation out, constituents will have no opportunity to raise concerns on amendments to their MPs, who only have a day in the chamber to challenge amendments.

That’s how I’m reading it but could be wrong. It feels like another almighty stitch-up incoming. It simply needs to be stopped.

Hi MW ,

There’s talk of a money bill again, do you think it’s going that way now ? Where do we stand now , are we in a strong position or is the possible amendment not enough to save us

If the Bill passes its Second Reading, MPs have minimal time to consider any concessionary ammendment properly irrespective of input from constituents. I'm shattered that this appears to be a Money Bill... assuming the Guardian is correct. That reduces my hope that the reasoned ammendment will be accepted by the Speaker. I can open hope that this filthy business infuriates MPs of all persuasions.

It seems to have started with that letter signed by Corbyn but I’ve never seen anything from the government to say it is . What don’t understand is how he can rush it through in a day , isnt it against the rules ? He simply doesn’t listen to people.

Hi @Zipz & everyone. I've just been reading through what actually was said by Lucy Powell (Leader of the House of Commons) which can be seen here: https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2025-06-26/debates/A9581D57-D918-4312-9328-F953EB8D9253/BusinessOfTheHouse

Another hyperlink that didn't work, so please copy the above & paste into your browser. The following dates were the relevant dates given:

Tuesday 1 July—Second Reading of the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill.

Wednesday 9 July—Committee of the whole House and remaining stages of the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill.

Lucy Powell said when questioned about the welfare Bill,

'As I have just announced to the House, the Second Reading of the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill will take place next Tuesday, and the remaining stages of the Bill will take place on the Floor of the House the following week. I want to reassure colleagues that we take parliamentary scrutiny and the process of Bills extremely seriously. That is what our parliamentary democracy is all about: Bills are introduced; principles are considered at Second Reading; and the details receive robust debate and discussion, and are often amended in Committee, before we consider Third Reading. As the House would expect, the Government actively engage with parliamentary opinion throughout a Bill’s passage, as we are doing intensively with the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill.'

The guardian

yep

Wonder what the concessions are . They refused the first lot so maybe he has given in a lot just to save himself 🤞. It did say something about multiple conditions