Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,169 Championing
    edited June 2025
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  • Autumnleaf
    Autumnleaf Community Member Posts: 998 Empowering

    Well, I sent out 651 emails in 7 batches - I don't feel it'll make a difference especially this close to the vote - it's so hard to tackle anything at all. At least I feel better than if I just tackled my MP - who didn't respond when I contacted before

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I read today that starmers old law firm have looked into the bill and say it’s against equality laws

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    On the front page of the telegraph it says reform are now expected to vote against the bill .

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    This is like a really bad carry on film that’s just not funny . As you say he has nothing to gain . He’s ruined the party and any hope of a second term for a few billion from the sick disabled and pensioners. Yet in order to save a few billion they’re spending £300 billion to bribe the country. They would have been in a stronger position now had they left us and the pensioners alone . It’s hard to see how Starmer reeves and Kendall , not forgetting their lapdog Timms, can be so stupid. It’s almost as though Blair’s told them yo purposely ruin the country.

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    You’ve done really well in fighting our corner MW . If they were to ask me I’d say we really need a descriptor for fatigue as not only do we have ME and fibromyalgia but also long Covid now . Plus being in pain both physically and mentally causes fatigue and I don’t think it’s given enough thought . If I’m in pain I can at least take painkillers at times when it’s too much but there’s no treatment for fatigue.

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    They are so evil, if they could kill us all off I think they would

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I’m so glad it went smoothly for you . I wish I’d migrated over years ago now .
    Yes I’m not a fan of this heat though my fans on 24/7 which helps . When my dogs allow me to enjoy it that is 😂

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 410 Pioneering

    @Catherine21 has been fantastic. You all have been and kept the momentum going. I never thought I'd have the courage to contact so many MP's. No matter what happens tomorrow we will all continue to fight on. This forum has made me feel less alone. A big thank you to you all. 👍️

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  • worried33
    worried33 Community Member Posts: 1,054 Championing

    Yes, as I am talking about what I have heard live in the debate.

    That quote is typed in bad english, but looks like it says if someone requests a reassessment, it will be under the new rules. However the english is bad, its hard to treat it with credibility.

  • worried33
    worried33 Community Member Posts: 1,054 Championing

    Yeah I thought so, the quote I replied to just above, isnt even a proper phrase, a misspeak (or typo) makes sense, and good its confirmed.

  • worried33
    worried33 Community Member Posts: 1,054 Championing

    Kendall was asked in the session if the changes are complaint with human rights and equality laws, and gave a straight yes, so she is in trouble with ministerial code if someone proves her wrong.

  • worried33
    worried33 Community Member Posts: 1,054 Championing
    edited July 2025

    From my understanding you will be protected, and I am saying this with high confidence.

    1 - you should be migrated before the date the new law comes into effect.
    2 - for WCA puposes you are an existing claimant.

  • worried33
    worried33 Community Member Posts: 1,054 Championing

    Thanks for this.

    This quote from the reply you got, seems to be a strong indicator, so that the protection is only a 2 year reprieve for the intermediate 4 point change.

    Once the review of PIP descriptors is complete and implemented, any reassessments will be made against the new descriptors

  • worried33
    worried33 Community Member Posts: 1,054 Championing
    edited July 2025

    In my opinion its the prime policy of this government, look how early they did it after the election, the rush for the pip descriptor overhaul as well, all the pre election campaigning from Kendall.

    Plus factor in the Labour parties history, although you mentioned earlier you felt Keir was going to be compassionate, there was little evidence of that, a sympathetic disability shadow minister got moved to a whip role, Kendall got moved to the top DWP job, Reeve is chancellor, so its a Blairite party, Blair has made it public what he thinks of disabled people, Labour have always been ideologically opposed (as an official stance) of Incapacity benefit, and they tried to kick a million sick people off with ESA.

    Politically I agree he is weaker for sure, but they are getting their main thing put through, even if the full effect will be delayed by a few years from the concessions.

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