Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.
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I understood that once the new PIP proposal (done alongside disability groups, whatever that means, cause that’s very unclear too) comes through, everyone will be subject to the 4 point rule
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Apologies to everyone if I have misread what has been said in parliament today. I would really appreciate if someone could clarify this 4 point rule to me. Will this apply to everyone who is making a claim/reassessed from November 2026? I really appreciate all your help.
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What time is the vote tomorrow ?
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Still no clarity on the fate of those on LCWRA who have no PIP.
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😂😂😂😂 WHAT AN ABSOLUTE **** SHOW .... Liz Kendall had absolutely no idea what was going on !
So from what I got from all that was ..... Absolutely nothing , I'm more lost now than before I watched it .... Honestly I'm so angry 😡 there a disgrace!!
So basically ...
Im on CBESA / new style esa and LCWRA but NO PIP
So my plan was right all along !
Keep getting reassessed through the WCA , that covers my ESA and my lcwra , with the reassessments starting back up at scale in mid 2026 even though I'm overdue by 4 years in November hopefully I can dodge a reassessment until beginning of 2027 with the backlog.... Hopefully I can then pass it and get a two year award taking me too the beginning of 2029 where I will then have to try to pass the new pip criteria just to keep what I have as I'm pretty sure even though I'm a existing claiment for ESA and lcwra , I'll be classed as a new pip claiment when transitioning over !
What an absolute disgrace these politicians are , I despise them !
A special mention to the cowards who backed the rebellion and have now pulled out as they got spooked and are trying to say this is now a good deal
ABSOLUTELY nothing has changed , complete stitch up
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Kendall is dangerously out of her depth.
I'm sorry to say that especially in light on online bullying, I'm against bullying and abuse full stop but you just cannot have a politician who hasn't got a clue being in charge of a massively important department like Work and Pensions.
She hates disabled people and thinks many of them are lazy scroungers, that in itself should disqualify her from that position.
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Kemi said Tory’s voting against
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time of vote ?
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anyone know what the numbers are with Tories, Lib Dem and Labours 50 or so rebels? Do they still have enough to get it through?
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Of course you can have a politician who doesn’t have a clue what they’re doing , just look at reeves .
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There's going to be a huge increase in the claims of adults currently still on DLA, as well as those on LCWRA but not PIP. Are they prepared for this?
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that’s what I was wondering. I think if past calculations were correct with Tory’s Lib Dem’s and independents voting against we need about 83 labour voting against. If I’m wrong someone please correct me. Whatever the number I would imagine starmers pooping himself again
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just look at the majority of the labour party !
wes streeting 😂
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They'll probably welcome it as an excuse to really crunch down harder on the assessment reforms and descriptors that will apply to everyone. No 4 point rule, but getting any points at all may become almost impossible for some existing claimants .
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Starmer 😂
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Yes 83 is the magic number if all the opposition votes against. I don't think there's any hope that 83 Labour MP's will vote to inflict such a humiliating defeat on their own government; not now they have some concessions to cling to justify their votes in favour.
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I predict the system will get clogged up with MR/appeals.
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stephen timms on sky just said the vote is tomorrow evening …..
answering my own question 😆
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Lawyers are already looking at this by this report
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