Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.
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Potential changes WCA pls driving me insane is it unlawful for them to change wca seeing ellen clifford won courtcase
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Hi Catherine,
I feel like we’ve been stitched up . I dread to think what Timms will come up with and I think the earlier concession where existing claimants were exempt from 4? Points is now gone . It seemed we had protection and may not have come under any new rules but now I think starmers made himself look weak by scrapping the whole pip rules but really he’s just scrapped the concessions made earlier . This way I think they’ll make more money in the future if this makes sense . Before anyone on DLA would be classed as an existing claimant now we don’t know . Not that we can be sure these previous concessions would of stayed but no one knows anything including the government
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I'm still reading up on it all @Catherine21 there's a lot of information to take in and I think I'll be needing a few more coffees before it sinks in. But it all seems very messy.
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Oh god I think this is done to plan so no one can legally challenge them is that correct ?
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I'm on CBESA / LCWRA .....
All people seem to care about is pip , we've been completely forgot about even though we will be the ones hot hardest 🤷
As an existing claiment of CBESA and LCWRA , it's actually quite simple ....
We will keep getting reassessed under the WCA until it's abolishment in 2028 / 2029
( Although with the recent pause to this moronic shambles of a bill I definitely can't see it being delivered on time so maybe everything will take longer )
When we will then be transitioned over to the new pip criteria assessment ( whatever that will look like )
We will then have to pass It to basically keep what we get now
I haven't had a reasessment coming up for 6 years in November , last one was November 2019 , I was supposed to have another November 2021 , so nearly 4 years overdue ....
I've always been reassessed for ESA .... I vounterally moved over to UC in mid 2022 and because of my support group status I automatically was put in to the LCWRA group ....
So technically I've never been assessed for lcwra , it's always been with a ESA50 form and not a UC50 form , although everyone migrateing over at the minute will be in that same scenario , also the UC50 is pretty much identical to the ESA50 and covers both your ESA and lcwra ....
Reassessments are supposed to start back up properly in April 2026 .... There's a huge backlog , so I'm hoping I won't be one of the first , I'm hoping I can go till the end of 2026 before getting one then fingers crossed I pass that should take me up till beginning or mid 2029 .... Then I'll go from there and try to pass the new criteria .... I can't be letting these bastards steal my life , life is the greatest gift we can get , no way there stealing it from me ....
UC reviews .... Bank checks and monitoring .... And now all these reforms , what a time to be alive 🤦 ....
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What are the last minute concessions please?
Is it still only new claimants that are affected or as the whole thing been thrown out?
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I’d like to see more protection for us within the severe criteria and fluctuating conditions included. I understand some people may have long periods of remission but there are some like myself that although my ME is classed as a fluctuating condition I never has a remission not even a good day . I hope fatigue conditions is fought for especially now after Covid . I don’t think fatigue and pain are taken seriously enough.
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Everybody MUST not being bossy here One email thank all mps who fought for us Two if your mp voted FOR make clear they will feel the same as we do now when election day comes we have a week as people say alot can happen in a week pls don't give up I'm on a edge but last push for those who voted this in to think clearly I did ask an mp what if timms says he will do this then he doesn't he said it would be a resigning issue if that happened
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I see it diffrent if you have more than one disability it can be on going pain can hinder your life in many ways physical mentally great impact with face to face travelling everyday life
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I think so
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This is what I don’t understand. Right now you have people claiming lcwra but too scared to apply for pip . Once the system changes they will have to pass the pip assessment anyway to get lcwra/ health element but then they’ll also get pip too . At first it’ll be like the DLA to pip situation but hopefully over time more people will qualify as changes come in due to legal action. Over time surely this will cost more than it saves .
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To be honest with you I'm to scared to apply , even though your right in everything you say , I think alot could change from now till then and I think there maybe some protection for people in my situation of recieving CBESA and LCWRA but no pip , because pip has wrongly dominated all the headlines but alot of people are aware that people in my situation will be hot hard by all this and I think the closer it approaches the more it will get a light shines on it , also for me I'll be honest I don't need extra money from pip , I get by fine with my CBESA and LCWRA for what I need , I'm pretty sure I'll get another reassessment before the new rules come in , so I'll concentrate on passing that and then see when my next reassessment date would fall .... And prepare accordingly .... What I will say is the state the dwp's in at the minute with backlogs alone and on top of that all these new changes aswell , I would be shocked if this all comes in on time , I mean timms review is now happening the same time as the new rules were supposed to be going through and anything he trys to get through that is suspect will have pushback .... Long way to go yet
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My MP voted For. Andrew Cooper. He'll be getting another letter as soon as im well enough. I'd suspected he would from his last reply to me, sympathetic but clearly on the fence 😬.
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I've asked him about what's happening with lwcra see if get a response
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WeWell mps who was totally against it seem to see it as a win so I suppose just have to have faith 🙏
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It’s Kemi I’m really annoyed at . I don’t know how she personally voted but Tory’s apparently abstained. She actually said she wants more cutbacks for disability so our kids don’t have to pay for it in the future. Like we are some second class citizens no one wants
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I know people who should get pip but feel the same as you yet were told too many claiming plus fraud . The only fraud is from the assessors
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Kemi voted no on the bill. Knowing her, her vote wouldn't be out of sympathy for disabled people, it's because she feels that they didn't go far enough.
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