Yadnad said:

Gerald said:

Yadnad said:

Gerald said:

Yadnad said:

Gerald said:

Okay Yadnad so off that you think that after seeing a PIP assessor for 20mins knows more about me than my Doctor and Consuitants who are medical professional in 20mins thats my reply not happy with that do you think that the PIP assessor is right then in 20mins thats a good one. 

Yes they would - they aren't interested in your medical issues or historical problems so why would they want to discuss them with you? Just as long as they can put together an opinion on what you have put on the claim form as to the impact you endure, whether it is medically feasible and whether or not that impact will score points. That's it job done.

Okay Yadnad just one thing do you work PIP assessment as by that you have put its is looking likely so you think that medical issues or historical problems Doctors and Consuitants who are medical professional reports do not count and how it impacts you and also put down on your PIP claim form then how come you have to go to a assessment if there not going to look at reports or as you have to send them in the first place with your claim form and just take you all off the benefit as like you have put down Yes they would - they aren't interested in your medical issues its a benefit for the Disabled do you think we all go round singing and dancing down the street and thinking lucky me That is B????????IT 

cristobal said:

In order to try and make this into a positive post I wonder if there is any sense in suggesting the following?

Why not approach your GP and ask if he/she if they could examine you and  give an opinion about how your condition affects you in specific area. Something along the lines of, “I examined MR X and found that his arthritis in the left knee prevents him bending it more that xx degrees. This means that he will be able to bend sufficiently to put his socks on”

My GP is almost certain to say that he’s too busy. And you’ll have to pay I imagine. But worth considering surely?

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Speaking for myself, I could not ask my GP such a question, it is not her job to determine to what degree a condition might affect me. My GP will treat my condition and if that doesn't work, she will refer me to a specialist who will confirm the diagnosis. From that point on, I am treated by a specialist. Such evidence is not good enough for the DWP because they do not care how poor your health is or even if you are at death's door, they are only interested in knowing how you move your arms and legs, 

I think it would be far better if the DWP used ALL the medical evidence presented to them, rather than using a sham examination process to deny illness exists. 

@cristobal I contribute but that is none of your business. When you lot stop swearing black is white and stop acting like jackbooted thugs, then I won't need to defend myself against people like you. 

ilovecats said:

Near enough everything I have seen you post is negative, unhelpful and often defamatory. Contributing how exactly?

Unbelievable! and what you have just posted is what exactly...... positive? It wouldn't surprise me if people like you were paid to go on forums like this to silence people like me. 

We should all hail this wonderful system that causes nothing but suffering and hardship.

cristobal said:

@gerald and @benistmonk...here's a challenge for you. You think the system's ****, and the assessors are bent.

How about some constructive advice ? Have you got anything positive to help people through making a claim?

Okay cristobal how about this then at your assessment it must be recorded and you get one and one for them to help people through making a claim and then if you go to a tribunal the PIP assessor as to go to and tell them how they have put down something different in there report and not the  medical issues or historical problems Doctors and Consuitants and one of my consuitants is a disability specialist who did a medical report and how it impacts me and do not count and how it impacts your day to day life and my bet is that you come back with thats not fair on the PIP assessor to record them. So how about that my bet is you do not like it.

Gerald said:

cristobal said:

@gerald and @benistmonk...here's a challenge for you. You think the system's ****, and the assessors are bent.

How about some constructive advice ? Have you got anything positive to help people through making a claim?

Okay cristobal how about this then at your assessment it must be recorded and you get one and one for them to help people through making a claim and then if you go to a tribunal the PIP assessor as to go to and tell them how they have put down something different in there report and not the  medical issues or historical problems Doctors and Consuitants and one of my consuitants is a disability specialist who did a medical report and how it impacts me and do not count and how it impacts your day to day life and my bet is that you come back with thats not fair on the PIP assessor to record them. So how about that my bet is you do not like it.

@Gerald ....I don't know why you think that I wouldn't like this idea - if you look back through my posts you'll see that I've always said that interviews should be recorded. Whether the assessors like it is neither here nor there - they'll get used to it...

I recorded my assessment and it was invaluable. The assessment wasn't done well and i used the recording to force Capita to correct all of the errors. Without the recording I doubt that my claim would have been successful...

Benistmonk said:

@cristobal I contribute but that is none of your business. When you lot stop swearing black is white and stop acting like jackbooted thugs, then I won't need to defend myself against people like you. 

@Benistmonk...when you refer to "you lot" I'm not clear who you're associating me with  - I'm a claimant, age 59, successful after a MR, retired due to ill health and I hope to use my experiences  to help people.

Neither do I fully understand your comment about "swearing black is white" but if you are referring to my race I would be grateful if you would withdraw that part of your insult. I'm proud of my heritage.

It's ok now we no the answer thank you very much as if you didn't no it's written all over your face ?

ilovecats said:

cristobal said:

Gerald said:

cristobal said:

@gerald and @benistmonk...here's a challenge for you. You think the system's ****, and the assessors are bent.

How about some constructive advice ? Have you got anything positive to help people through making a claim?

Okay cristobal how about this then at your assessment it must be recorded and you get one and one for them to help people through making a claim and then if you go to a tribunal the PIP assessor as to go to and tell them how they have put down something different in there report and not the  medical issues or historical problems Doctors and Consuitants and one of my consuitants is a disability specialist who did a medical report and how it impacts me and do not count and how it impacts your day to day life and my bet is that you come back with thats not fair on the PIP assessor to record them. So how about that my bet is you do not like it.

@Gerald ....I don't know why you think that I wouldn't like this idea - if you look back through my posts you'll see that I've always said that interviews should be recorded. Whether the assessors like it is neither here nor there - they'll get used to it...

I recorded my assessment and it was invaluable. The assessment wasn't done well and i used the recording to force Capita to correct all of the errors. Without the recording I doubt that my claim would have been successful...

I didn’t have a problem being recorded. If you accurately write down what the claimant says then it shouldn’t make a difference.

Good  to know ilovecats  if they do not like to record it and then write down something different to what the claimant says then it makes a difference. and my PIP assessor did that and now its my word against is and i asked about recording it and got we do not do that and you can not do it yourself as i was going to give them a copy at the same time this as to be recorded this as to come in as part of the assessment not you have to ask them is it okay just do it .

You see it wasn't that difficult was it thank you I'll make a note of that pinnocio