Job coaches for mentally ill in hospital settings - BBC

JonnycJonny
JonnycJonny Scope Member Posts: 252 Empowering

As previously posted here in an article from The Telegraph Liz Kendall has appeared on the BBC confirming the policy proposal.

Not posting this to scaremonger / sensationalise but to inform our community.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98y09n8201o

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  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 329 Empowering

    Liz Kendall has demonstrated again and again that she has no detailed knowledge of disability and the relevant benefits for it. Ignorance of this level is dangerous

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,807 Championing

    Omg now I'm panicking is this actually true so this means everyone with MH issue will have to go back to work god I feel sick

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,807 Championing

    Can they actually do this ?? I'm worries now

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,807 Championing

    Can she do this ???

  • JonnycJonny
    JonnycJonny Scope Member Posts: 252 Empowering
    edited October 2024

    This is still a 'policy proposal' - to be detailed in the forthcoming White Paper.

    White Papers can be debated before a Bill is introduced, and may invite comments from the public. This allows for further discussion and consultation with affected groups, and for final changes to be made before the Bill is formally presented to Parliament.

    It is not yet policy.

    Best wishes

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,807 Championing

    OK thankyou jonny if it got passed how long would that take pls oh she's evil evil imagine that dosed up on tablets at your lowest thankyou for responding

  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 329 Empowering

    It's a long way off - if it ever gets passed at all. Don't worry about it now, I am sure people with lived experience of MH and basically anyone with common sense will seek to inform her of what a terrible idea this is. As you say Catherine, imagine the carnage that would occur!

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,807 Championing
  • Meg24
    Meg24 Online Community Member Posts: 390 Trailblazing
    edited October 2024

    I'm so close to giving up. They have no idea what they're doing. If they think that people who are so seriously mentally ill they are hospitalised can be 'incentivised' to get a job, then they themselves are insane.

    What worries me now is what might be their presumption about people who have managed not to be sectioned. I've been having weekly therapy for over 20 years, it's kept me alive and out of hospital but I'm still hanging by a thread everyday.

    Deciding not to unalive yourself does not automatically cure severe depression or make it possible to successfully manage daily life, never mind be employed.

    I gave up having health screening tests years ago, I might have decided not to take negative steps as it stands, but I can't bring myself to take positive steps to prolong my life either.

    Right now I feel like I don't care anymore. I've spent years being active on forums, writing to my MP, filling in green papers etc etc. I can't be bothered anymore...

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,807 Championing

    Yes I agree read that and feel how much more trying keep at an even level but been brought right back down worse than tories imagine someone doused up literally dribbling asked questions about back to work same as you I give up

  • Sharebear
    Sharebear Online Community Member Posts: 95 Empowering
    edited October 2024

    I've been down a rabbit hole this morning, searching for part time job with no pressure from home.they just don't exist. I'm going to buy a laptop ready incase. I kind of feel like maybe this scare mongering is to see how many they can scare back to work ! I just don't know how I will do it. It's not fair that she's put pressure on to so many mh people. As for going into hospital when people at lowest there must be a law against this!!

    It's opening up doors for employers to also do this. My last two employers didn't believe mh was a disability and wouldn't make adjustments!!!

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,807 Championing

    Just shows you thier sinister minds unbelievable so mild MH problems must be bpd bdd ptsd adhd autism if they think going into a psychtric ward is a good idea thankyou once again everyday we have to deal with this cruelty in may if we vote local mps out thier lose power ?

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,807 Championing

    Don't give up meg24 as Judie nightcity said its wishlist and wouldn't happen over night don't let these cruel inhumane horrid vile creatures Bring you down even more God reading that floored me it's all designed to keep us down and fearful keep being you keep fighting I'm positive they will not get away with this try and have a good day ffk them

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,807 Championing

    2020 I recieved my review for pip I was really angry I wrote everything in the form called them liers oh everything said they don't follow 2010 equality act why ask all these questions as you refuse everyone I said don't you dare put me through what you did in 2016 lied on whole report i was raging didn't care I got paper based and more money in 2016 when she lied on my report triggered me so badly I was phoning up everyday raging complained a million times everyday I said you want to see what happens when someone mentally ill pushed to limits obviously wouldn't suggest anyone do that but they had no choice but to listen

  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 329 Empowering

    I can't believe Kendall is speaking so lightly on this inhumane and discrimitary plan on the very day the Assisted Dying Bill is being discussed in the House of Commons which already has many disabled people feeling desperately afraid. It's disgusting treatment of the most vulnerable AGAIN

  • Numan
    Numan Online Community Member Posts: 39 Empowering

    And what if one of the contributing factors leading to being on a ward is the benefits system? How does that work? Feeling there is no escape route could be catostrophic.

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 177 Empowering

    I don't know how much more of this I can take. ☹️

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 213 Trailblazing

    You cannot get someone who is seriously mentally ill into a job, if he or she has a breakdown in the workplace not only could it damage them it could damage the people around the person in question.

    I wonder if the thought has occurred to her that many seriously mentally ill people aren't 'safe' to do jobs?

    Also, what kind of prospective employer will, with open arms, positively embrace a candidate with serious mental health challenges, simply because that one has been "coached" and had a tailored CV provided?

  • durhamjaide2001
    durhamjaide2001 Scope Member Posts: 13,810 Championing

    I agree with the government out there that it could be helpful for some people. However this shouldn't be forced upon people. PEOPLE ARE ILL there so why put added stress if the person doesn't want a job

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,807 Championing

    This has tipped me how dare they even think that and say it so sinister I'm really worried now so are they going to say as you haven't seen can't spell it psychiatrist your OK literally impossible to see one these days I've had enough I'm getting so angry it vile