Upcoming changes to benefits

tcellmutation · March 16

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/998291#Comment_998291

My interpretation is you need 4 points on at least one activity and additional points can be made up from other activities even if they score below 4 points

JonnycJonny · March 16

It could also be just 4 points in one activity and the other 12 points made up from any number of points in the other activities. It isn't totally clear.

All mere speculation for the time being any way and a long way off.

tcellmutation · March 16

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/998299#Comment_998299

At least 4 points in any one activity to even be considered for PIP

At least 4 more points from any other activities to qualify for the lower rate (so 8 points in total)

4 more points on top of that to qualify for the higher rate (so 12 points in total)

JonnycJonny · March 16

Agreed. We'll have to see - the devil will be in the detail.

tcellmutation · March 16

Thankfully I still meet that strict threshold and currently receiving the light touch to be reviewed again in 2029 but who knows if they'll wanna reassess again before this and score me lower so I don't meet the new threshold 🙄

secretsquirrel1 · March 16

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/998269#Comment_998269

if these plans go through. Another con as in my experience my assessor gave me enough points to get awarded but on some questions gave me 2 points when I should have scored more. But obviously knew I wouldn’t complain as I had the points needed.

secretsquirrel1 · March 16

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/998282#Comment_998282

it seems misleading to me as I read it as 4 points for at least one question plus 4 for lower. 4 points for one question plus 8 points higher . I can’t see how you need 4 points once but still get an additional 12 points . 16 points seems as though you’d need to gain points once every question. Especially as In my experience they seem to award 2 points per question.

tcellmutation · March 16

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/998320#Comment_998320

I think you are correct

Wibbles · March 16

One important point - the government can't backdate eligibility

ie) If you were eligible for PIP, 2 years ago - you are still eligible today (unless something changes by way of your health improvement, which would need another assessment) - they can't backdate rule changes

secretsquirrel1 · March 16

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/998325#Comment_998325

god I hope I am . I think if it’s 16 points it would disallow most people I reckon. Hopefully someone on here can clarify though obviously we don’t know anything for sure

Catherine21 · March 16

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/998144#Comment_998144

I agree lwcra more worrying

JonnycJonny · March 16

We are all in the dark till Tuesday - even then it will remain some way off before changes are implemented.

The move from a Green Paper to a White Paper and then legislation will require a number of steps not least of which being a ping pong between the Commons and Lords.

Try and get some fresh air and sunshine today - that's my recommendation and plan for the rest of the day at least.

Best wishes

evelyncourtney · March 16

DPAC (Disabled People Against Cuts) are holding a parliamentary meeting tomorrow afternoon:

Ray212 · March 16

https://act.38degrees.org.uk/act/no-cruel-cuts-to-benefits

luvpink · March 16

Saying on GBN government going to do a U turn over back lash from Ministers and MP's

Zipz · March 16

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/998223#Comment_998223

Yes @worried33 The new points system doesn't make sense.

A claimant can have a very major disability but only score less that eight points because the disability isn't multiple.

Equally, a claimant with a multiple disability might score a lot of points but none of them as high as four, thus losing their claim. I'm reminded of the Tories' Green Paper last year. One of the questions was whether we thought claimants with a lot of low points ought to get the same amount of PIP. Sorry, I don't have the form to hand.

I dint trust the points system as it is. Looking back to when DLA was launched and i got it for life, the focus seemed to be on the degree of disability rather than points.