Upcoming changes to benefits
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it seems misleading to me as I read it as 4 points for at least one question plus 4 for lower. 4 points for one question plus 8 points higher . I can’t see how you need 4 points once but still get an additional 12 points . 16 points seems as though you’d need to gain points once every question. Especially as In my experience they seem to award 2 points per question.
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I think you are correct
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One important point - the government can't backdate eligibility
ie) If you were eligible for PIP, 2 years ago - you are still eligible today (unless something changes by way of your health improvement, which would need another assessment) - they can't backdate rule changes
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god I hope I am . I think if it’s 16 points it would disallow most people I reckon. Hopefully someone on here can clarify though obviously we don’t know anything for sure
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I agree lwcra more worrying
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We are all in the dark till Tuesday - even then it will remain some way off before changes are implemented.
The move from a Green Paper to a White Paper and then legislation will require a number of steps not least of which being a ping pong between the Commons and Lords.
Try and get some fresh air and sunshine today - that's my recommendation and plan for the rest of the day at least.
Best wishes
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DPAC (Disabled People Against Cuts) are holding a parliamentary meeting tomorrow afternoon:
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https://act.38degrees.org.uk/act/no-cruel-cuts-to-benefits
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Saying on GBN government going to do a U turn over back lash from Ministers and MP's
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Yes @worried33 The new points system doesn't make sense.
A claimant can have a very major disability but only score less that eight points because the disability isn't multiple.
Equally, a claimant with a multiple disability might score a lot of points but none of them as high as four, thus losing their claim. I'm reminded of the Tories' Green Paper last year. One of the questions was whether we thought claimants with a lot of low points ought to get the same amount of PIP. Sorry, I don't have the form to hand.
I dint trust the points system as it is. Looking back to when DLA was launched and i got it for life, the focus seemed to be on the degree of disability rather than points.
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z-UyXXcCBUiMY_2POvCQAhr7srbbodtmnCqEEIICW RQ/mobilebasic
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yes like me
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Only on the PIP freeze which is the least of our worries, sadly.
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On just the PIP freeze or the whole lot??
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What are the 2015 reforms and what effect does it have
So why have they sat on this for 9 years ?
I don't understand the last part from 2017 could you explain pls
Catherine 👏 these are the right questions to be asking and all those reforms need to be understood to effectively challenge these 'new' proposals. I can't easily explain because of the scale of this scam. There are many comments on this forum about loss of the WRAG allowance from 2017 though..
The assault on benefits claimants began in 2010 with changes to Housing Benefit and Council Tax Benefit entitlement.
The 2012 Welfare Reform Act (IDS and Lord Fraud) is where key protections in the 2007 Welfare Reform Act for sick and disabled claimants were trashed. MP's who supported welfare reforms in 2012 and 2015 have been tying themselves in knots ever since to implement those measures without this coming out.
The Labour plotters don't care about winning a second term or seeing Keir Starmer fall (tripped). Labour leadership was in crisis during the General Elections of 2015, 2017 and 2019 due to the benefits fiasco. IDS was gifted the seat he was certain to lose at the last GE and he still rules the roost. He got Brexit done and hopes to get this done and dusted too!
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I finding hard to cope, email that unless timms and reeves. I'm autistic and scared my pip will be taken away, my review is in a few years time.
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It said pip but they have had a back lash over disability benefits in general.
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I think you are right, it is unclear though. First report I read 5 days ago was that they were simply taking away all the 2 point descriptors; ie nothing for needing reminding only for needing prompting. I don't think they have a clue - if only they'd consulted with some, say, disabled groups or people 🙄
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so does that mean if you get pip now and have a review coming up they can’t take your pip off you unless your health has improved ?
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