Upcoming changes to benefits

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  • Popster2020
    Popster2020 Online Community Member Posts: 35 Connected

    Sorry, I'm being dense here. But 4 from one question and 8 from another or 4 from one question and then 8 points (made up from various questions). As you say, nothing confirmed.

  • geckobat
    geckobat Online Community Member Posts: 74 Contributor

    This is what I suspect too because it's so much easier for them to look at any less visible or invisible disabilities and dismiss them.

  • Vulcress
    Vulcress Online Community Member Posts: 88 Empowering

    Direct from Beth Rigby

    One government figure told me it would result in some conditions, such as "milder mental health" or "lower-level physical conditions", being ineligible for PIP.

    But they stressed that those with more severe conditions and who are never going to be able to work would be protected and cared for.

    It's coming back to the same question many have asked in this thread who is going to decide

    the cut off point?

    Protected and Cared for? like the months of endless stress, the non stop rhetoric that had right wing papers drooling and loving the word "scrounger" "workshy"

    The really sad thing about this if they actually just spoke about #brexit and the disaster its been just something as simple as making sure goods and services align with the EU would provide the UK Economy with 2.2 % Growth. Just cutting back red tape and actually getting a viable solution sorted until a main party leader decided to make the case to rejoin the EU fully.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 674 Championing

    that’s my worry as ME and fibromyalgia are invisible

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 674 Championing

    I think it’s 4 points one question plus 4 points made up from any other questions

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 674 Championing

    you can request they only reconsider certain questions and say you’re happy with whichever question you gained points on . The one at my tribunal kept asking if I wanted them to look at a certain question again as she knew if I lost the points I’d lose my lowest care. I said no and she had to accept that.

  • bench
    bench Online Community Member Posts: 129 Empowering

    And there throwing out the narrative to the general public, that most people are faking their MH issues, and trying to paint us a fraudsters ,that are robbing off the tax payer, like they did to the man working cash in the hand in 80s to feed his children, I love Rachel Reeves or Liz Kendall to sit in my head for just one day, where getting out of bed in a struggle, and you hate yourself for it being a struggle and just want a so called normal live ,and work, but sometimes it's not the simple, like I said if they they their criteria through , this country has gone back 80s, after such a big deal make about mental health just a few years, and it's still the biggest cause of death of men under 30, same on them all, and they will have blood on their hands

  • Holly54321
    Holly54321 Online Community Member Posts: 31 Contributor

    Has everyone been writing to their MP or you waiting until the announcement tomorrow?
    Don’t know whether or not to bother at min as it might not be as bad as we all think 😞 or atleast I hope.

  • Gregam
    Gregam Online Community Member Posts: 14 Listener

    I'm currently on LCWRA, if the government change it am I likely to be able to claim ESA instead?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 674 Championing

    just read on sky news they intend to make it harder to get pip for “ milder mental health “ and lower level physical conditions “ What’s classed as lower level physical?

  • Durus
    Durus Online Community Member Posts: 25 Contributor

    Just saw that clip of some presenter on GB news grilling Wes Streeting on if it's okay for someone on ADHD to be claiming PIP. The look of disgust on her face at the thought really took me back.

    I'm sure she feels the same about all mental heatlh and neurodiverse conditions.

  • geckobat
    geckobat Online Community Member Posts: 74 Contributor

    This country seems to have thrown out any call for progress about understanding MH an invisible disabilities, and that progress over decades was already painfully slow, so you're right. We're going backwards and none of them seem to care enough.

  • FluffyCatMeow
    FluffyCatMeow Online Community Member Posts: 95 Contributor

    I don’t think it would be a specific diagnosis due to how varied things can affect different people, and they’d lose that court case pretty quickly, so I’m guessing it’ll be actual symptoms they look at

    maybe in regards to mobility, if you can walk a certain length (longer than the higher point PIP distances) and don’t need mobility aids, or if you can mostly take care of yourself even if you can’t work

    (but obviously I have absolutely zero clue so take what I say with a grain of salt)

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,944 Championing
  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Online Community Member Posts: 339 Empowering
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 674 Championing

    I’m also over fifty but it’s the lower level psychical conditions that I’m worried about . I don’t find being in constant pain and fatigue low level

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,944 Championing

    I have both ME and fibromyalgia and I have diagnosis going back 14 years with detailed consultant and gp reports confirming how these conditions affect my level of functioning.

    I send them in each time I am reassessed yet I only get 3 year awards and twice they reduced my mobility from high to standard but I got it back by doing mr.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 674 Championing

    I don’t think they actually know what they’re doing at this point. I wonder how many times they’ve changed that green paper ?

  • JonnycJonny
    JonnycJonny Scope Member Posts: 252 Empowering

    There are some in the UC LCWRA group ( ESA Support Group ) who are in a 'severe conditions category' ( it can be Googled ) whereby they are completely exempt from further assessments - this is apparently explicitly set out in their award letters. It 'may' or 'may not' be those claimants who will be 'protected' from a rate cut tomorrow or they will be given a new named health benefit.

    All will be revealed tomorrow.

  • geckobat
    geckobat Online Community Member Posts: 74 Contributor

    I have to fight even for half of my family to understand this, just how awful constant pain is and how much it drains. What hope do we have of getting the government to understand it.

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