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Hi, my name is rainbowboo!

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  • rainbowboo
    rainbowboo Community member Posts: 44 Connected
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    Thank you , that's good to know and no it doesnt interfere with my conditions, I think it was just a point they were making as they are against me I guess,
     I didnt score in the managing treatments, I had got confused about that question, and didnt mention my exercise programme I do daily given to me by my chiropractor or that sometimes I use a tens machine, this I did mention in my MR and told them I had misunderstood the question and provided evidence, but I feel it was overlooked, and not taken into consideration, as they still only scored me 6 points so this tribunal hearing is literally to try and explain this and hopefully gain the 2 extra points as my daughter helps me with it 
  • rainbowboo
    rainbowboo Community member Posts: 44 Connected
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    Also does anyone know if, at the tribunal hearing do they go through all the descriptors again or just the ones I'm appealing against? As I already scored 6 points and I'm not disputing them ones
    Thanks 
  • rainbowboo
    rainbowboo Community member Posts: 44 Connected
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    Also does anyone know if, at the tribunal hearing do they go through all the descriptors again or just the ones I'm appealing against? As I already scored 6 points and I'm not disputing them ones
    Thanks 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 55,962 Disability Gamechanger
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    When you go to a Tribunal you're actually going in with zero points so they look at everything. Don't be too alarmed if you don't have a decision on the day, this isn't unusal. If this happens they will  send you the decision letter which you should recieve within the week.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community member Posts: 16,147 Disability Gamechanger
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    With the descriptor about 'managing treatments', then this has to be prescribed or recommended by a Dr or nurse or a health professional who is regulated by the Health & Care Professionals Council (HCPC). Unfortunately a chiropractor isn't thus regulated, & I doubt the use of a tens machine would be considered either.
    Are there any other descriptors that you feel might be applicable?
    The Tribunal are not obliged to limit themselves as to those descriptors you hope they will! Do have a look at the PIP descriptors again: https://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/asset-library/personal-independence-payment-descriptors-and-scores-april-2022.pdf

  • rainbowboo
    rainbowboo Community member Posts: 44 Connected
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    Thank you I will definitely have a look 
  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community member Posts: 16,147 Disability Gamechanger
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    Sorry, should perhaps have added links so you could check yourself here: https://pipinfo.net/activities/managing-therapy-or-monitoring-a-health-condition   & here: https://www.hcpc-uk.org/check-the-register/
    As a long-retired physio I have been practising the exercises I used to teach for many years as I appreciate their value. Despite mentioning I'm a physio 3 times in my claim pack, & to the assessor, I received a 'cut & paste' comment that as I 'didn't see a physiotherapy nor pain management specialist' I could walk further than stated without being in pain! This also despite my GP also writing that pain management is ineffective in those with my genetic condition. So am pleased that you will have another look at the descriptors (& as I didn't even manage to gain any points for this).

  • rainbowboo
    rainbowboo Community member Posts: 44 Connected
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    Thank you I will definitely have a look 
  • rainbowboo
    rainbowboo Community member Posts: 44 Connected
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    Sorry just re read your post , blimey that's tough going! It's making me feel very nervous about the whole situation to be honest:( 
    I did see a physiotherapist who sent my details to the hospital I was then talked about in there meeting and seen by orthopaedic specialist and have had them pushing for me to have decompression surgery,  I've so far havent felt ready to go down this road but ive had caudal spinal injections and when I first see them they said to carry on with my exercise plan as directed by chiropractor, it's all such alot to think about , but not much longer to wait for the phone call ! Thanks again 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 55,962 Disability Gamechanger
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    It's perfectly normal to feel anxious about a Tribunal because the majority of people do. Remember they are completely impartial to DWP and will be there to listen to you and to apply the law correctly.


    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • rainbowboo
    rainbowboo Community member Posts: 44 Connected
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    Thank you , yes I definitely feel anxious,  stressed, it feels like last few months it has completely consumed me ! 
    I do appreciate all feed back I've had its given me a better understanding of it 
  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community member Posts: 16,147 Disability Gamechanger
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    I don't want you to feel more anxious, but thought it worthwhile to explain about the 'managing treatments' descriptor as I don't feel that's worth pursuing. Your chiropractor may very well be excellent, & I give somewhat limited advice on this forum about physio exercises (as I obviously can't see any individual's medical history) as I know how much the correct exercises help, but if your chiropractor isn't regulated by the HCPC.....
    As poppy says, the Tribunal are completely separate from the DWP, & just want to find out on the balance of probabilities how your disability does indeed impact on your functional abilities to attempt/do any activity 'reliably' that's applicable to you.
    The 'reliable' bit is so very important too, i.e. can you do it safely, to an acceptable standard, repeat as often as one would reasonably expect, or does it takes you much longer than someone without a disability. See this mentioned at the end of the link I gave above.
    It's an awful lot to take in, but we all want the correct result for yourself.

  • rainbowboo
    rainbowboo Community member Posts: 44 Connected
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    Thank you so much I do appreciate it and yes I definitely want to to know as much as I can ahead of the hearing :)
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