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Any advice/personal experiences of PIP tribunals?

amy798 Member Posts: 29 Connected
Hello, my mum lost her high rate mobility (and therefore her car) and high rate care in September, and has been housebound ever since she lost her car. She relies on other people to take her to the shops as she doesn’t have the money for taxi’s and cannot use buses as the vibrations and jolts give her pain as she has fibromyalgia, osteoarthritis, poly arthritis, audio-processing disorder, schuermann’s disease (curvature of the spine), depression and anxiety and a problem with swallowing food. I believe she has other conditions too but I cannot remember these. She cannot walk without crutches and has had to start using a wheelchair (which I push) to get her around places. She walks with a walking stick in the house, and struggles to bathe, dress herself, can only cook prepared meals, cannot budget finances correctly, she has urniary incontinence issues, forgets to take medication due to APD and fibromyalgia. She also struggles to remember many things and can no longer understand many words/ pieces of information due to APD. My mum has severe anxiety and struggles when meeting people, also because she fears people judge her on her disabilities, and cannot go anywhere unfamiliar unaccompanied. 
My mum has had to stop going to voluntary groups she used to help run which was for people with mental health issues, and she can no longer attend bible study groups nor church as she is a strong Christian. 
My mum’s tribunal is in two weeks, and I am accompanying her to it. We are both nervous wrecks as we do not know what will happen. The assessor last year lied an awful lot on her assessment notes that we received. 
Unfortunately my mum can not get a doctor’s letter as our doctor refuses this - he does not believe people should have to pay for these and flat out refuses to help. My mum also has a scrape and clean done on her knee many years ago at a different surgery - scans show my mum has only mild arthritis, however, after the surgery, they saw chronic arthritis that didn’t show on the scans and had to remove over half of her knee cap, however upon requesting this record it has apparently gotten lost and so have no evidence to back this claim up.
My mum has had thoughts of suicide because of being housebound and has said she feels as though these thoughts would be recurring if the tribunal was to go against her.
Is there any advice based upon this information provided on what to do etc?  
Please help. Thank you so much for reading. 


  • feir
    feir Member Posts: 395 Pioneering
    Change your GP. If he's not helping find one who will. You really need evidence to back up what you claim.
  • mikehughescq
    mikehughescq Posts: 8,845 Connected
    1) Why is a GP letter needed? You provided a long list of diagnosed conditions. The symptoms and prognosis for most of those are well known bar the arthritis. You can provide a list of meds yourself. The GP can’t say anything about her mobility or daily living needs other than repeat what she’s said. That’s not really medical evidence. The bigger question then is whether you have focused in on the points she should score and why? Discrediting a HCP report is all well and good but all it does is lower the weight a tribunal will give to it. You need to look at the strength of evidence you have.

    2) Does she have an adviser/representative? If not then one is urgently needed. If we’re 2 weeks away and you can’t list her conditions then she needs professional representation. Ditto if you haven’t yet put in a written submission summarising your arguments.

    3) The current GP record will note a scrape if nothing else. Ask for it. 

  • amy798
    amy798 Member Posts: 29 Connected
    I have wrote a 5-6 page document describing everything I do to help my mum and the reasons why she can’t do things. I have gone through her assessment notes from both 2017 and from 2014 and made any comparisons etc from them and noted the many things I disagree with in the 2017 notes too. 
    My mum has wrote a 2 week diary to try and explain what her life is like and pain. My mum has also wrote an 8-9 page document which I have helped her with too explaining what she feels she personally disagrees with too. My mum relies on her brother who also has severe problems, for transport and so my nan (my mum’s mum) has wrote a letter too, explaining what impact her losing her PIP and car has had on their lives as well as my mum’s life. 
  • mikehughescq
    mikehughescq Posts: 8,845 Connected
    1) You definitely need a rep.

    2) The impact of the loss of PIP is an irrelevant consideration. 

    3) What you disagree with in the HCP reports is fine but in itself not enough to qualify. It just means that evidence is given less weight. It will still prevail unless your own evidence is strong.

    4) Move the focus away from the care you provide and towards anecdotes about when she has not had help and tried to perform those activities.


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