The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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Your right to much all at once x
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I note that in order to collect taxes, they do not send tax collectors to each taxpayer.
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If you pass the new assessment, if not you will have to probably reapply and be a new claimant just like they want.
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she was horrific. I didn’t suspect the cons wanted even worse . Bad yes but not worse .
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The Trussell trust and the MS society have expressed their disgust on GB news.
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People tell me that all the time when I write about my life on sites like this. I feel like this is only me living a miserable, lonely experience, but the more you engage with others online you realise our condition is shared with many others too.
If someone thinks I (or anyone else like us) would willingly choose this sad and lonely life just to avoid having to work, you've gotta be crazy.
I try to explain it like this to people who lead relatively normal lives:
imagine a life without all the things that make you happy… friendships, a partner, maybe children, independence, your own home, travel, going to events & socializing eating out at restaurants, etc. Now think about all the things that you find difficult in life or annoying. I have none of the joys but many/most of all the same problems. Do you think not having to go out and work is really such an incredible treat that you would sacrifice everything else good you've got going on to sit at home alone all day?
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it was meant to be just a normal UC reassessment that could have been face to face or phone. But in the end they decided they had enough evidence to just do a paper based assessment.
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I guess alot more people will be appealing in the future .
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yup, an unbelievably unpleasant individual.
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Ok so i have had a read and hopefully can help in some way as i think i got my head around it
- nothings gonna change till October 2026 so a good 1.5 years before the changes come into effect
- LCWRA payments frozen - Meaning that they will not increase inline with inflation So the amount you see today will be the same up to 2028. Also for new claimants of LCWRA from next year, the rate will reduce to £50 per week, doesn't change for existing people, however didn't read anything about reassessments so not sure about that.
- WCA will be scrapped in 2028. meaning there will be 1 assessment for both PIP & LCWRA.
- Removing the non work search criteria - So they're thinking about removing this aspect. Even if you have LCWRA & Enhanced pip, they may ask you to contribute something to getting your benefit payments, So like training or education. things like that. None of this just pay you and never contact you again based from what i saw/read
One thing everyone has to remember is, this needs to pass LAW. So the Legal system may look at this and think "this is illegal" which they have done in the past with changes made with the government "Rwanda for example"
I thin they're trying to root out the lazy from the genuine sick and ill healthed, alot of people claim benefits for every day conditions "normal levels or every day levels of anxiety and/or depression for example".
People need to remember that PIP is designed to help you with your conditions. But a lot of people use it for things that aren't related to their illnesses (I know people that use it to pay for their brand new car every year which isnt mobility scheme) which isn't what PIP is designed for.
Alot will change before it's made into LAW. Just keep your eye out but i don't think anyone can tell you the Exact changes, only ideas and speculation at this point.7 -
Had anyone responsed to the green paper online yet ?
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one of those that would never have any sympathy unless she was living the live version as we do daily
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no, the changes start in April 2026 (for new UC claims).
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I’ve never taken any notice of her but thought she looked like a caring individual. How wrong I was !!! Looks are obviously deceiving in her case !
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I scored 13 points in total for daily living, on the one category I had 4 points, anyone know what that mean for me, my head is all over the place. Thanks in advance
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You can understand it. When it comes to opposing welfare, the competition to standout is incredibly fierce within the Conservative party. Whatley is working jolly hard to keep her position and be the best at this cruel sport.
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as long as you still get the 4 points on at least one descriptor when your claim is reviewed, you’ll be fine.
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Thanks prinko, if the new benefit/time limited aspect of it is for any new claimants, then will the old cb Esa people just stay on it and not be moved to uc, and not merged with jsa either? With regards to the indefinite dla people, it sounds like they will make it very difficult to get pip when transitioning over or people will lose out one way or another.
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A bit like Badenoch!
Vile!
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Finally, Someone else making this point.
Mark my words, lots of us will be put in this position .
The pressure will be on assessors to find as many as possible 'fit for work'.
Then It's an appeal or tribunal process, and treated as a 'NEW CLAIMANT'.
Believe me they will save a lot by doing this, just think, any claimants that gets £50 a week deducted will be worse off by £200 A MONTH !!!!!
IT'S DISGRACEFUL.
EVEN STEVIE WONDER AND RAY CHARLES CAN SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE.
I should be put into the 'severe' category and not even reassessed but unfortunately I have been on the receiving end of an assessors lies before.........
To the point where the dr and judge at my tribunal refused to do the tribunal, they awarded me support group , apologised to me and made an official complaint about the assessor, because it was made obvious that due to my disabilities and multiple auto immune diseases that this shouldn't have happened.
It was also a waste of time and public money.
Many of us have been through these experiences...and I'm sorry to sound negative, but we will see much more of this.
The upside to all this is that these plans will backfire, and the cost in tribunals will offset any savings.
So well done kendall, 'thieves and harmer'. (Sarcasm).
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