The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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I am really worried. I read paper and for over 3 years I’ve been in esa contributory band support group. The papers is silent on what will happen to me. I paid tax etc for many years and at a very high rate was discriminated etc against and destroyed by an employer hence had to claim this as medically advised. I’m in severely disabled high risk and to date not received medical treatment needed for complex trauma as mental health secondary team do not have resources. What will happen to people like me. Impact is huge as it effects other benefits, reliefs and rebates inc accrued ni which I’m 3 years away from. Any realistic insight would be much appreciated. I’m sure I’m not the only one.
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Lawyers are Lenin and Putin, not Stalin.
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My heart breaks hearing people so so so scared I am too ellen clifford is working in back ground all charities pls pls don't react on emotions we have everything running through our minds and bodies lean on each other this is not the end even though it feels like it hold in there give time for plans to be made and for people to fight these inhumane elitists it's been done before it can be done again keep writing to mps every week if we have to hold in there everyone I believe it will be watered down much love
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Always right to a minister as a minister.
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Is this going to be legally challenged. Our human rights are being violated by this despicable government. Also what points that you.struggle to.wash your hair.
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Thanks for the heads-up!
Are they checking to see if people have more coming in per se? My only income is from PIP & UC.
Isn't that odd to be asked why you withdrew £50 lol; where can any wrong be seen in that😁
So basically its not an enquiry on what we spend the money on?
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I had planned to withdraw any future funds (small amounts) so that I have cash where there are no card readers.
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Yes, various groups are already putting together cases,
Labour MP's are now upto 89 deeply unhappy
Kendall/Timms met with Labour MP's the meeting imploded on the news
Reeves is going to announce more cuts. Turkeys voting for Christmas springs to mind.
A lot of the MP's are the ones recently elected who barely won.
For me it boils down to this they are acting so sensitive and carefully worded around assisted dying Bill, Great concerns about disabled people but this is perfectly fine.
Starmer is not labour and I sincerely hope the story is correct thousands have already cancelled Labour memberships now we need the Unions to stop the funding. I sure his rich mates can top up the coffers,
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hi
New in here, gone through the green paper and obviously it’s atrocious.
One thing I’d say that hasn’t got much or no attention is paragraph 53 and 54 regarding the new Insurance Employment.
It is very badly written, and I believe it’s on purpose.
Anyone with ESA contribution based, if that proposal goes ahead, will lose their entitlement eventually. As well as any NI contributions for their future pension.
this is clearly discrimination done in a very devious subtle way.
So if you are on ESA contributions based I would reply to their green paper pointing that out.
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regarding the new Insurance Employment, paragraphs HD 53-54
Anyone with ESA contribution based, if that proposal goes ahead, will lose their entitlement eventually. As well as any NI contributions for their future pension.
So if you are on ESA contributions based I would reply to their green paper pointing that out.
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regarding the new Insurance Employment, paragraphs HD 53-54
Anyone with ESA contribution based, if that proposal goes ahead, will lose their entitlement eventually. As well as any NI contributions for their future pension.
So if you are on ESA contributions based I would reply to their green paper pointing that out.
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This is what they have plans on
A new contribution-based Unemployment Insurance Benefit
The Green Paper asks views on replacing New Style ESA and New Style JSA with one new Unemployment Insurance benefit. The rate of financial support would be set at the current higher rate of NS ESA. The benefit would not require a health assessment and would be based on an individual’s National Insurance record as is currently the case. Those with long term health conditions, would also be able to claim other relevant benefits where eligible.
Hope this helps 👍️
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and it will be time limit, hence you’ll lose your entitlement and NI contributions if you don’t qualify for UC
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Hello would love some help to understand about the new UC lcwra and pip changes coming soon I get all 3 and see they taking away lcw and lcwra in the year 2028 how can this affect me as I was given in January 2025 a infinity awarded for my lcwra and under it say about 10 years so what means it gets looked at again in the year 2035 if I'm correct but if it's being scrap in 2028 what well happened to the last 7 years on it?
Also I seen about pip where you have to now get 4 points for the Daly living I got 2 on some of them that add up to 10 points that give me lower end of pip and I got the full 12 points for mobility on just one out of the 2 as the other 1 got nothing and that ends in 2028 sometime I know by then I be in my 40s and my health is bad now I can't handle bits as of now so don't want to even think of what 40 plus me is going to be like but like everyone right now I am concerned and I seen all the people saying that most of the people on pip don't want to work and sit on there back side all day getting as they call it free money and that really irritates me as I work for years to I had a injury at work and then my health as decided over the years along with my mental wellbeing so I did work I can't no longer do it and I hope that that someone that is working making good enough money then losing it all and having no choice but to go on benefits it's a big change like I can't afford what I could when I was working at a full time wage
Any way sorry going of topic there as anyone have any ideas on what to expect going forward any help on this matter would be greatfall
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I'm another of the ones effected by the new 4 points rule and won't be eligible when reassessed next year. And the party line that it's to help people get back into work is absolute nonsense. I DO work (30 hours a week) and it's Pip that enables me to keep doing that because it funds the therapies and help I need to continue working. Without that help I honestly don't know how much longer I can keep doing it. It's already tough now. So this could be the tipping point for me.
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I cannot believe, truly how brutal they are being but also so arrogant its worse than the WFP axe. They cant accept people have different levels of sickness and disability.
I waited 14 years to see the Tories kicked out and replaced by Tories II a straight to streeting sequel, who seems to think shouting his mouth off about everything solves everything.
there are thousands of people just waiting for NHS ops then get back to work, they know this
Nah lets spaff the money on these "reforms" instead.
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Omg they questioned a cash withdrawal ?
I will be having a 'bank statements review' in the coming months and im even more worried now.....
How dare they be so intrusive .
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I also have cervical spondylosis,chiari malformation,amongst other things and my husband washes my hair and my back etc I still only ever get 2 points
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No, they dont ask what were spending on. I think one of the main things is if we're filtering money out into anothet account and bumping our savings up (chance would be a fine thing!)
Also any large sums of money moving around. I think it's more for fraud.
I was worried because Id recently adopted a rescue cat for £100 and I thought she might say I shouldnt be spending on things like that, but she was quite the opposite actually and said how good pets are for people with health problems.
So I don't think there's anything to worry about 🙂
Let us know how it goes won't you.
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Thanks so much loucie. Xx
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