The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)

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  • Middleton
    Middleton Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering
    edited March 2025

    So, the Navel and mid-scapula are now the criteria

    Ooops! maybe it doesnt mean navel; but rather the mid shoulders down to waste🤔

  • mawempathy
    mawempathy Community Member Posts: 150 Empowering

    Some of the questions on the form will change alongside the descriptors I would think. No point asking questions that are no longer relevant to scoring the assessment. But it's all guessing at the moment not even the government has got the answers yet.

  • Middleton
    Middleton Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    If this is at all fortunate for me; its on record(all typed out in the assessment) that I couldn't place either arm behind my back🤔

    That still doesnt mean they wont mess with me, but i'll be bringing that up in the coming renewal

  • Middleton
    Middleton Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering
  • mawempathy
    mawempathy Community Member Posts: 150 Empowering

    It sounds crazy, doesn't it? It's all about giving the assessor the tools to limit your score by setting as many traps as possible.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    last time I looked my head was above my shoulders so completely stupid. Though Someone did say maybe washing your back ? But as someone with fibromyalgia and cervical spondylitis plus tennis and golfer’s elbow pain changes all the time

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    in my experience last time assessor asked questions that would award 2 points only . I got my full points for an award but wouldn’t in those circumstances now . This was a couple of years ago and apparently common. Next time I’ll be more vigilant to their scam

  • evelyncourtney
    evelyncourtney Community Member Posts: 104 Empowering

    Where have they said that the descriptors are changing?

  • Tonawanda17
    Tonawanda17 Community Member Posts: 183 Contributor

    Hi, i'm sorry to keep asking this but i posted yestarday and haven't noticed if i have had a reply. I am long term disabled with cerebral palsay. I am on CB ESA Support group and pip (NO UC). Does anyone know what will happen when my claim comes up for review. Will i move over to the suggested new time limited benefit? Thanks

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I imagine some questions will have to incorporate the wca element otherwise surely discrimination

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    When are they starting these reassessments for LCWRA? It all seems a bit vague at moment with some saying it's for people who's circumstances may have changed since their last one, like pregnancy and those recovering from cancer, is this true as green paper is mind boggling!!

  • snuggles65
    snuggles65 Community Member Posts: 147 Contributor

    Hi

    My pip is due for renewal Nov 26 so will I have to through the new assessment and will I need the 4 points?

    My hubby as irESA support group and enhanced on both will help be ok if s gets the enhanced. We have to move by 7th June to UC

  • carbow32
    carbow32 Community Member Posts: 256 Empowering

    that's what it said on the green paper and then to move onto other people who are likely to have a change in award.

  • Middleton
    Middleton Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    Whats so important between the shoulders and waist🤔😁

  • Wozza
    Wozza Community Member Posts: 40 Contributor

    Hi all,

    I currently receive the LCWRA payment as I meet one of the criteria for acceptance, I can't swallow food or drink and have a feeding tube which is permanent.

    This was caused by Lymphoma in my neck/mouth, I've been in remission for about a year, but I'm still pretty smashed from the cancer, radiotherapy, chemotherapy and stem cell therapy.

    Will I lose this payment if the proposed changes come in and everything is assessed via PIP?

    I don't think I'd score 4 points on one descriptor, probably 1's and 2's throughout.

    All very stressful and any info would be appreciated.

    Warren

  • Middleton
    Middleton Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    I have my over-the-phone UC Claim review at 2pm today. Will update later!

    Received a note in my journal 3 weeks ago for bank statements etc

  • Jimm19
    Jimm19 Community Member Posts: 50 Contributor

    @Ross1975 on my letter from the tribunal services is states " Tribunal recommends the department (dwp) does not reasses whithin 24 months from today's date (28/4/2022). Like I said previously I'm still waiting and haven't heard anything yet.

  • Jamk85
    Jamk85 Community Member Posts: 56 Empowering

    Hopefully with the backlog being so huge you won't have one for very long time yet and you remain in the LCWRA

    Makes not much sense why they would start these considering the UC transfer is going to be 60k esa claimants per month.

  • LouCie61
    LouCie61 Community Member Posts: 98 Empowering

    Just to let you know I had mine in December. I was so worried snd as everyone knows the constant having to justify just wears you down.

    It wasn't as bad as I thought though. There wasn't anything on my statements to challenge (what comes in goes out on living expenses, as with all of us!)

    She questioned a one -off £50 cash withdrawal! 🙄 I like to keep a little bit of cash for an emergency - some cabs don't have card readers and last year I once had to get cab to hospital urgently so thought best to keep some cash.

    But she did tell me they're going to happen every six months though going forward 😕

    So Good luck - hope it's not too gruelling.

  • bana
    bana Community Member Posts: 2 Listener

    I am really worried. I read paper and for over 3 years I’ve been in esa contributory band support group. The papers is silent on what will happen to me. I paid tax etc for many years and at a very high rate was discriminated etc against and destroyed by an employer hence had to claim this as medically advised. I’m in severely disabled high risk and to date not received medical treatment needed for complex trauma as mental health secondary team do not have resources. What will happen to people like me. Impact is huge as it effects other benefits, reliefs and rebates inc accrued ni which I’m 3 years away from. Any realistic insight would be much appreciated. I’m sure I’m not the only one.

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