Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)

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  • Loulou82xx
    Loulou82xx Community Member Posts: 56 Empowering

    Is it possible to download an app on your phone, some GP's offer online services now where you can book appointments in advance. I am so sorry you are unable to get appointments I can't imagine how hard it must be for you and worrying. I am in South Yorkshire and I can't say a bad word about my GP they are really good but I know it isn't the case everywhere in the UK ( it should be, but isn't and the disparity in care is so unfair ) my Mum and Sister live in London and my mum really struggles to get appointments despite having poorly controlled diabetes and issues associated with it and ends up going to the walk in centre instead. I only mention the app as my mum recently got it for her practice and can now book appointments usually a few weeks in advance.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    Hi Sarah , sorry but I have no idea how to . But if you type in the justice journals you’ll find her . She also gave a deep dive about the pip changes .

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 448 Empowering

    No problem , I did type it in but it isn't coming up . I'll keep looking thank you .

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    oh I don’t know why it isn’t coming up . I just typed in the justice journals and it was the first thing that came up

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 448 Empowering
  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Community Member Posts: 677 Championing

    Thanks @gamer1 .

    I respect everyone’s opinions, but I personally felt that Reform UK’s manifesto on disability benefits was one of the worst. πŸ™„

  • Girl_No1
    Girl_No1 Community Member Posts: 413 Trailblazing

    For anyone wondering what Reform's manifesto had to say about disability/benefits. Here you go, excerpts from B&W site:

    Reform UK election manifesto: welfare benefits promises

    Β Published: 17 June 2024

    Reform UK has published its manifesto today.Β  It has less than half a page of text on benefits, under the headingΒ β€œThe Benefits System is Broken” and featuring a slogan of β€œIn Britain, if you can work, you must work.”

    On PIP and the WCA, Reform says:Β 

    Face to Face, Not Remote Assessments for Benefits

    Personal Independence Payment and Work Capability Assessment should be face to face. We will require independent medical assessments to prove eligibility for payments. Those registered with severe disabilities or serious long-term illnesses would be exempt from regular checks.

    When benefits and work carried out aΒ poll of readers two years agoΒ on what sort of PIP assessment they would prefer, the results were:

    • Paper 59%Β 
    • Phone 20%
    • Face-to-face 20%
    • Video 1%

    So this is a move that would be unpopular with the majority of Benefits and Work readers

    The remainder of the text is devoted to raising the starting point for tax to Β£20,000 a year and an aimΒ β€œMotivate up to 2 million People Back to Work”.

    Reform say that:

    β€œReforms to benefit support and training will help people back into work. Particular focus on 16-34 year olds. Employment is critical to improving mental health. Tax relief for businesses that undertake apprenticeships.”

    The manifesto goes on to warn that:

    β€œAll job seekers and those fit to work must find employment within 4 months or accept a job after 2 offers. Otherwise, benefits are withdrawn.”

    You canΒ download a copy of Reform UK’s manifesto from this link.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing
    edited March 2025

    Kernowdamo also has a good video out. He’s a green councillor and a carer

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Community Member Posts: 677 Championing

    Thanks @Catherine21 .The reason I mentioned it is because I genuinely see no other way to ensure that disabled and vulnerable people are properly supported. It’s tough to trust any major political party on its own. We need strong leadership and a massive movement to push this forward.

    But how ??? is the curious question…..πŸ€”πŸ€”

  • gamer1
    gamer1 Community Member Posts: 81 Empowering

    I agree. At least they are transparent about it unlike Labour who had nothing in their manifesto about it.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Community Member Posts: 677 Championing

    That’s true, @gamer1

    LIEBOUR (as some of our members refer to them) are truly the party of lies.

    What an awful bunch they’ve turned out to be πŸ˜–

  • onlymeagain
    onlymeagain Community Member Posts: 259 Empowering

    If LCWRA is going to be tied with PIP, what will happen to all the people who are still on DLA?

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering
    edited March 2025

    @Catherine21

    If only we could make that happen!! πŸ‘ŒπŸ˜

    Loathsome Liz would never live it down. 🀭

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 410 Pioneering

    I think we're all doing the best we can by writing to our MP's, responding to the green paper and signing petitions to oppose these changes. Hopefully our voices will be heard. That's all that we can do. Who knows whether these proposals will eventually be watered down. If the proposals go ahead as planned I think it'll take the government time to implement it all. I have now accepted these proposals are going to happen. If any of these proposals don't happen or are hopefully watered down I'll take as a bonus.

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 410 Pioneering

    Anything that doesn't happen or is watered down I'm going to take it as a bonus. I think it's wise to take breaks from forums, social media, msm. It's important for our MH. This is going to be played out in the media for the next number of months.

  • gamer1
    gamer1 Community Member Posts: 81 Empowering
    edited March 2025

    Reassessed for the new PIP? Would they leave DLA alone, I think they will reassess it.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing
  • Skyla
    Skyla Community Member Posts: 21 Contributor

    Absolutely worried day and night. Can't sleep and just can't understand how they can get away with what they're doing. It seems nothing will stop them as they're hell bent on the welfare disabilty cuts. They don't seem to have a clue how devastating the effects will be on disabled people and the long term sick with chronic health conditions. Just as I have been awarded PIP, after 2 years of appealing, the rug is being pulled from under my feet. It's like Saturn is laughing just when life is made a little more bearable. I always feel ashamed of my health conditions as my own family never believed or accepted them so I feel embarrassed yet I feel absolute empathy for anyone else.

    They're stigmatising amd dehumanising us and doing their damn hardest to inflict more hardship and immeasurable suffering. HOW is this allowed??? It seems that no amount of protesting is making any difference..they turn a blind eye and are deaf to all pleas. I feel sickened by it as the results will be catastrophic for us all.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,345 Championing

    Perhaps I'm the last to read this but it's really upset me:

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/34013516/pip-mum-of-three-benefits/

    The Case of Disabled vs Disabled. It's one reason we're such easy prey.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Community Member Posts: 677 Championing
    edited March 2025

    @Catherine21

    Certainly, why not? They are really driven politicians.

    Like you I’m also clueless about politics, but I’m passionate about people and disabilities. We need someone really fierce and bold to lead a movement that shakes up Parliament.
    It is clear that the current government is not just clueless about disabled people. They seem completely out of touch with everything a government should be doing for its people. Every time they speak, they seem more focused on blaming previous governments, saying things like we inherited this or we inherited that, instead of taking responsibility and making real changes. It is a frustrating and ego-driven approach.

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