Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)

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  • Skyla
    Skyla Community Member Posts: 21 Contributor

    Absolutely worried day and night. Can't sleep and just can't understand how they can get away with what they're doing. It seems nothing will stop them as they're hell bent on the welfare disabilty cuts. They don't seem to have a clue how devastating the effects will be on disabled people and the long term sick with chronic health conditions. Just as I have been awarded PIP, after 2 years of appealing, the rug is being pulled from under my feet. It's like Saturn is laughing just when life is made a little more bearable. I always feel ashamed of my health conditions as my own family never believed or accepted them so I feel embarrassed yet I feel absolute empathy for anyone else.

    They're stigmatising amd dehumanising us and doing their damn hardest to inflict more hardship and immeasurable suffering. HOW is this allowed??? It seems that no amount of protesting is making any difference..they turn a blind eye and are deaf to all pleas. I feel sickened by it as the results will be catastrophic for us all.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,352 Championing

    Perhaps I'm the last to read this but it's really upset me:

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/34013516/pip-mum-of-three-benefits/

    The Case of Disabled vs Disabled. It's one reason we're such easy prey.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Community Member Posts: 705 Championing
    edited March 2025

    @Catherine21

    Certainly, why not? They are really driven politicians.

    Like you I’m also clueless about politics, but I’m passionate about people and disabilities. We need someone really fierce and bold to lead a movement that shakes up Parliament.
    It is clear that the current government is not just clueless about disabled people. They seem completely out of touch with everything a government should be doing for its people. Every time they speak, they seem more focused on blaming previous governments, saying things like we inherited this or we inherited that, instead of taking responsibility and making real changes. It is a frustrating and ego-driven approach.

  • onlymeagain
    onlymeagain Community Member Posts: 265 Empowering

    But until then? If you have to be on PIP daily living to get LCWRA, will this mean those who haven't been transferred from DLA yet will not be eligible?

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,654 Championing
    edited March 2025

    gamer1 Online Community Member Posts: 52 EmpoweringMarch 30 edited March 30

    Labour are a 75% working class cabinet and they are going to vote in the worst reform in HISTORY for the poorest in society and disabled people. They should be embarrassed with themselves.

    Not the worst. The most damaging welfare reform took place nearly ten years ago following a sleight of hand within 2012 reforms. Universal Credit was introduced in 2013, paused then rolled out because it was too late to turn back.

    The 2012 and 2015/16 Acts need to be revisited in order to stem those changes because they matter more than ever now !!!

    Neil Couling retires tomorrow and I've no idea who will replace him. I've posted a question about this and nobody seems to know or be concerned. I am very concerned because he has created a monster and now he's sodding off.

    😖

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  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,110 Pioneering

    I dare say that I and many here are interested in what will happen during their lifetime, and not in 100 or more years. I have not noticed a single welfare state on this planet. Although I have visited many countries. Compared to other government expenditures, spending on the disabled is a mere dust. Only the greed of the ruling classes prevents them from spending money on the disabled and pensioners.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,110 Pioneering

    If I am not mistaken, pensions and disability payments to military personnel are included in other budget items and have nothing to do with the issue being discussed here.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,110 Pioneering

    I note that many people with visual impairments and physical problems cannot use smartphones.

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 442 Empowering

    I don't think they will go through . The proposals haven't been assessed .

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 442 Empowering

    I really don't think the proposals will go through, it is bad for the economy , even people on benefits pay tax vat and contribute towards the economy .

    They are talking about making half of the country destitute , it will make the already UK recession a depression .

    We should be speaking positive because if you look at the proposals they just cannot work.

    How many households could adapt and survive having £1000 a month taken from their benefit or wage?

    Who will rehouse these people when they get evicted for none payment of rent /mortgage ?

    Where are these jobs coming from when disabled people have no chance of getting taken on by an employee , why would they want disabled people on their workforce who will want time off for sick days , hospital and doctors appointments ?

    It's not going to work , its a dream labour have and in the past similar proposals were rejected .

    Please speak positive , lift your vibration , they hate it .

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 442 Empowering

    I think this is the most unpopular piece of legislation for decades and will be fought tooth and nail .Also all the Labour MP's voting will know if they vote in favour of this , it will be the end of their career .

  • alexroda
    alexroda Community Member Posts: 381 Trailblazing

    labour mps could end up voting in favour of some of these proposals and later the tribunal quite likely could judge them unlawful.

    And 4 years later, labour will be out of power. People don’t forget.

  • Stellar
    Stellar Community Member Posts: 447 Pioneering

    This is awesome news. The DWP is such a god awful institution, it's no wonder they cant recruit work coaches. Plus like most jobs, the pay is too low to justify it. Even if the Tories force these reforms through, they're doomed to fail.

    It's almost as if not trusting benefit claimants to be honest about their situation (and not giving a **** if they're doing benefit fraud so long as they aren't hurting anyone else) creates more problems than it solves. It's neoliberalism, capitalism and eugenics doing what they do best.

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