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  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,622 Championing
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,622 Championing

    Oh yes sent a few on here basically saying we will vote you out even with all information that's been coming out how people will lose life's they still want to vote on it ok evil

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,622 Championing

    I think only my thoughts that reform has shaken the whole political system tories are fourth they will definitely vote against to make labour suffer more and tories look like they care we are a big community maybe they want to win labour greens lib dem voters I emailed green party they said thier against emailed lib dems they said thier against if there wasn't so much pushbacks charties unions so many professionals writing telling them people will die they been getting emails letters social science wrote a damming report they have been exposed and I can imagine alot of his mps despise him he's made to many enemies which is good for us he's to hot to handle a walking liability who would want to be associated with the worst PM ever I think we have a good chance of it been watered down and if we're not satisfied we send more emails and say no kendell has to 2nd to reply to parliamentary committees she will still stick to it all but the power and control is not in her hands if it wasn't those 3 in power and someone else I'd be more worried we have so much support more than I could ever dream off people in back ground waiting for thier next move

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,622 Championing

    We are looking for hope now I understand why they call starmer flip flop and God are we suffering for it ! It's a thing constantly on the mind yes you see an article and share it never out of malice to break it down sometimes people might be able to help the person who's worried about certain articles yes my doctor tells me not to engage it's impossible hours looking scrolling if people are able not to do that that's amazing scope are on it if they feel things going in a certain direction you can't tell people how to act some people get comfort from sharing and when you voice your opion on that then people feel like they done something really bad so we all feel and think things doesn't mean thier right

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,622 Championing

    I agree getting desperate saying job cemter wont force people imto any old jobs !! So thiier admitting theu do ? And there is no jobs even tescos shutting earlier because of reeves NI they know the destruction they will cause that's why tightening benefits as how many this year will apply really need to get them out thay have a plan mcdonnell knows he's fighting them hopefully Corbyn and the other good Labour mps onto them they didn't factor in the power of the people this is put life's I'm sending more emails to name and shame saying if you stay loyal to ministers think again they won't care if you lose your seats they will leave multimillionaires

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,622 Championing

    I've emailed more mps on name and shame and told them you vote for cuts we will vote accordingly come may

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,622 Championing

    That annoys me given extra time to find other benefits what jsa

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,622 Championing

    Oh and there's more they respond!!! How disappointed they are in labour hehe laughing like The one out of the exorcist my head was spinning when recieved a letter from leader kemi was like wait a minute an I tripping 😳 Reform has got them chasing thier own tail feathers 🪶 I think mcdonnell corybn abbot Abrahams richard don't know all thier names are plotting something

  • bton1968
    bton1968 Online Community Member Posts: 156 Empowering

    births in the UK yesterday 1600 approximately.

    illegal boat crossings yesterday 1200 ….

    this is why starmer is targeting welfare cuts ….

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 310 Championing

    Ex Labour Reform supporters are not going to vote Labour again, Labour's biggest threat comes from the Left and the Lib Dems.

    The PM should push for massive investment in access to work and work well increasing opportunities but ultimately you can't force employers to hire disabled people and many employers don't want to hire disabled people.

    Thing is PIP helps disabled people in work and Labour wants to take that away from them whilst claiming PIP is an unemployment benefit. These lies should come with legal consequences for politicians.

  • Amaya_Ringo
    Amaya_Ringo Online Community Member Posts: 411 Championing

    I am honestly so fed up with that prevarication. The fact they keep avoiding that PIP is a disability benefit and has nothing to do with numbers in employment (both employed and non employed disabled people claim it).

    They KNOW it. But they also know most of the media don't care and will continue to report on it as such.

  • Amaya_Ringo
    Amaya_Ringo Online Community Member Posts: 411 Championing
    edited June 1

    Sorry, my pc had a double post accident. Nothing to see here :)

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering
    edited June 1
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    How have the MPs not looked at figures and worked it out themselves though? I read labour have said not as many will be affected due to conditions getting worse hence higher scores. So we are now to rely on becoming more sick and disabled to gain extra points and of course hope we get a truthful assessor on the day .

  • AppleJacks
    AppleJacks Online Community Member Posts: 89 Empowering
    edited June 1

    The truth is, there's too many claiming for the slightest thing. This is what has triggered the cut backs, you only have to read a few in the forums i/e can I get benefits because I'm a student and I get headaches, could I claim PiP. This where it's gone wrong and they've seen it. But now they're targeting everyone, it was easy to push through WFA through because it wasn't a benefit, but it's backfired on him. So now they've got his back up, he'll come down harder on the genuine ones in society. If you think they're going to lay back and give in with the cuts, well think again. He still hasn't said who will get WFA yet. They made the mistake of saying you can only get it with pension credit and that's turned in to a nightmare for him 😂

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Hi Catherine,

    There’s a graph from dwp foi regarding the pip 4 points and who gets 4 points currently. It shows that 87% on standard don’t get 4 points plus 13% on enhanced. I think we need to email this breakdown to MPs so they realise it’s not 10% who will lose out. They need the real figures if the vote does go ahead . I can’t remember where I saw that breakdown but I’ll see if can find it tmrw. My fatigue very bad today but I’ll try tmrw and start emailing it to them. Hope you’re well 😀

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Even if they were already passed in law from before he became PM he could scrap the cuts as he’s planning to do to others . He will be responsible for any deaths as will reeves Kendall and Timms

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Hi juls,

    I just saw on another site a quote from a newspaper possibly the times regarding the 4 point rule. It said one tweak they’re looking at is anyone who gets a high enough score but not a 4 could still get pip . It said that would mean about 200,00 still eligible. The numbers on enhanced that don’t get the 4 points is 209,00. So I think they started off with the intention of scrapping standard rate but leaving 13% who get 4 points alone . Now suddenly there’s talk of “helping” everyone on enhanced keep pip whether or not they get a 4 points . Seems like an extra step towards scrapping standard rate to me . Though my MEs bad right now so I may not be making any sense 😂. If up to it tmrw I’ll look for that report from foi regarding the pip points and breakdown of who gets the 4 . I’ll send it to some MPs so they know it’s 87% set to lose out , not 10% as they’re being told .

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 314 Pioneering

    the head of reform was on sky news today talking about what cuts would they implement.

    No mention of disability cuts at all once again.

    Whichever party supports the proposed disability cuts are done for at the next general election.

    Reform and Tories know that.

    Are Liebour aware of it too?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Just watched silver fox . He mentioned Kendall being brought in front of a parliamentary committee over the cuts . Sorry I don’t know how to link here

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