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  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community Member Posts: 17,441 Championing
    edited June 2025

    Do you have a link to what Timms has said about 'substantial risk' @Passerby - as this is very concerning.

    Admittedly this is now 2 months ago, but Timms didn't really seem to give any sort of definitive answer then when questioned about this by another MP: https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2025-04-01/43367

    One of the Advice for (DWP) Decision Maker's guides about PIP (Chapter 2) does say this about 'safely' - which means in a manner unlikely to cause harm to themselves or to another person, either during or after completion of the activity under para P2106 but I'm not sure that that goes far enough compared to UC, tho it should. I'd always thought/hoped that that part of PIP might offer protection to those who are at 'substantial risk.'

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I watched disability talk with Steve earlier. He was talking about Timms and how he lied about pensioners not being affected by the 4 point rule , apparently he’s now admitted the dwp don’t know what they plan to do .

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  • luvpink
    luvpink Community Member Posts: 4,561 Championing

    Hi lovely

    Where do you watch ' Dissability talk" please?

  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community Member Posts: 17,441 Championing

    Thank you @Passerby - they're 'considering' rather a lot, as emphasis on, if they get their way, the daily living component of PIP seems to indicate that any mobility needs (including that part which is for those who have difficulty 'going out' which they deem non-functional, when it can severely impact on a person's functional ability) seem to be of lesser importance.

    Whilst with PIP you need to have had difficulties for at least 3 months, & expect them to last a further 9 months, I fail to see how many that would currently be seen as having 'substantial risk' would not fall under this category, so they're hoping to change rather a lot, & not offer financial support for those undergoing cancer treatment. Tho they apparently 'might' still be eligible for UC, but not the so-called health element….

    Let's hope none of this happens!

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    https://www.youtube.com/@Disabilitytalkwithsteve

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Hi luv pink ,

    It’s on YouTube. I watch dynamic duo too .

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  • luvpink
    luvpink Community Member Posts: 4,561 Championing

    Noah Law

  • bton1968
    bton1968 Community Member Posts: 156 Empowering

    i see rough sleeping is been decriminalized …..

    see ….. the government has our best interest at heart after all !

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 415 Pioneering

    I can't wait to see the government's response to the letter DPAC sent.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Yes I posted that too . Certainly no coincidence imo . In the mirror Rayner had the cheek to say how proud she was that Labour are scrapping vagrancy laws and that they brought about the welfare state . Irony was obviously lost on her

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,466 Championing

    Will todays spending review mention our PIP matter ?

    It doesn't look like it will - the chancellor is going to be talking about Defence, Power, WFP, School meals.., etc but not what really matters to us…

  • ashmere
    ashmere Community Member Posts: 73 Empowering

    From Rightsnet site today

    Ministers planning to introduce a bill to parliament next week containing government’s proposed disability benefit cuts

    Via the Politico website:

    Ministers are drawing up plans to introduce a bill to parliament next week containing Labour’s controversial cuts to disability benefits, in time for a showdown vote — the “second reading” — in the week of June 30 or later. 

    One person with knowledge of the plans said the bill was likely to be tightly focused on the cuts, while other welfare reforms will come only later in the year. This will concentrate Labour MPs’ anger, but could also allow the government to classify it as a “money bill” — meaning it would be made law within a month of being sent to the House of Lords even if peers still object.

    Officials have also held talks about putting the bill through a “committee of the whole house,” preventing lengthy evidence sessions that could question experts and campaigners. The person with knowledge of the plans argued: “You rip the plaster off, otherwise it just drags out for longer.”

    But one Labour official said: “The welfare vote will blow it all up again. I think at least one minister will resign.”

    More: Missions impossible: Can Starmer’s Cabinet get behind his plan?

    https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/now/post/63404

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I think at the moment there are vagrancy laws which have been in place for 200 years . Labour are scrapping them . There’ll be something behind it as this lot don’t do anything for the good of the people.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    She’ll want to emphasise how much she’s spending on the working people, no austerity here. The only cut backs are for us and when you consider how much they’re throwing around savings to disabled benefit are peanuts. I don’t think any party would have removed support from over a million people. And if they tried Labour would be voting against it

  • ashmere
    ashmere Community Member Posts: 73 Empowering

    Correspondence from the Secretary of State, responding to the Committee’s 21 May letter regarding the Pathways to Work Green Paper

    https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/164/work-and-pensions-committee/publications

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