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Definitely for the best ☺️ I've seen nothing of anyone passing anything as a money bill , even if you Google it not one article comes up .... Don't let one post ruin your whole day .... I have served OCD and dark intrusive thoughts , I know all to well what it's like
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When Abraham mentioned the consultation not being fully open to us Kendall replied it was always going to be that way as it’s being debated in parliament and amendments discussed. I’m hoping that’s her way of saying it win go through in its current form. Though obviously hope it gets voted down
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I think the same I got consumed by spending every minute of the day checking for information in the hope id find something that would give me abit of hope. It put me in a place where a emergency referral was made to mental health services.
I am gonna just wait and see what happens, while I still email the sad folks in Government. They are not MPs as MPs look after the people
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Like I say long way to go , I think they are playing the long game and they know they will have to tweak these , when you have so many of your own MPs rebelling against them there surely must know there will have to be some leeway..
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My support has explained to me they would have to be watered down.
Fingers crossed 🤞
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I still haven't had reply from him.
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I’ve read about it too , I think it was a source spoke to a journalist. I don’t see how they can pass it as a money bill . Everything costs money so really that could say we need to save money from NHS , illegal immigration etc and just pass laws as a money bill . Governments could just pass any laws they like as it all costs money. All just my opinion just my thoughts on the subject and I hope I’m right 🤞🙏
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I really hope they don’t scrap lcwra on its own. At least leave us something while we go to appeal for pip if we need to
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So let me get this right the gov are confident now they have the numbers to get it through ? That’s why there doing it next week ?
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Everything they say is about working people, we are surplus to requirements to them . People can main about the Tory’s but I never felt they hated up like this lot of psychopaths
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If they do it won't be until earliest mid 2028 until then we will just get reassessed through the current WCA even if the reassessment is after the changes to pip on November of next year and then there will be a transition put in place when we finally have to chance our arm at the new pip , I think the scrapping of the WCA will get alot more coverage when it's nearer the time .... At the moment it's all pip because that is the change that is coming the soonest from November next year and will affect a lot of people at that time , once that is all done , I think the scrapping of the wca will be quite a big deal
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That's a sneaky cop-out i.e. debating in parliament as opposed to a proper consultation with knowledgeable people/agencies.
MPs, for the most part, will have zero direct knowledge of disability benefits, far less the intracacies involved in our day-to-day lives/survival.
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Every part of it is brutal so not sure how they can tweak it . Losing pips one thing if you have lcwra while you go to appeal , which can take two years as it did me . Now we will be left with no income at all and being too sick to work means sanctions. I can’t believe this is legal when they aren’t even releasing all the facts so mps know what they’re voting for .
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That's the other massive elephant in the room - forcing a vote without OBR information available to allow an informed vote.
That cannot be legal, can it? Forcing MPs to buy pigs-in-pokes?
We might as well move to America - at least there they're upfront about how we are a deficit on society, we are a cost burden only.
I'm ancient - well elderly - and I truly never believed I would see a group of people claiming to be the Labour party stooping to this level of skullduggery towards sick/disabled people. Never.
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Listen to what your saying , it makes a lot of sense 🙂 they cannot leave people with nothing , it would never be allowed , that's why in my opinion it backs up what alot of people are already saying , and that is they can't pass into law as they are , it would be dangerous plain and simple .... MPs know that the job market is terrible no matter how much they say it isn't .... There's not even enough jobs for well people let alone the sick , they know as well as any one these are cost cutting measures , again only my opinion but noway these don't get tweaks to them , what they are noone knows but I'm 99 %sure there will be
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And it’s not about money either as they’re throwing money around like confetti. The only cut backs are aimed at us . It’s pure hatred
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Oh I hope you’re right 🙏🤞
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The irony of it all is that this could be the catalyst which costs Labour the next election, which will destroy their "social justice" credibility for generations also.
"Labour the party that consigned hundreds of thousands of people to destitution"
We know Starmer doesn't care, he was already set for life before becoming an MP in 2015, Reeves, Kendall and Timms no doubt will enter the house of Lords but all 4 of them will be remembered for this saga.
Is it worth it? To ruin other people's lives under the guise of benevolence and a "moral imperative". Stephen Timms is a Christian and so is Rachel Reeves, Christ himself said "For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you took me in.".
It's about the idea that our actions towards others, especially the vulnerable, will be a key factor within Christian orientated judgement. I'm not religious but I understand some aspects, compassion is something which is beyond religion.
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Mel Stride was speaking in parliament today and he said "instead of proper reforms to PIP their own plans are a rushed cost cutting exercise so rushed they even had to change them after they announced them and their own backbenchers are in full revolt." I was quite shocked him of all people coming out with that.
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I think starmers a psychopath and has therefore surrounded himself with Kendall and reeves who are too . Lacking in empathy and cannot read the room. Starmer tries to mirror empathy but just looks robotic. He’s so stupid I’m embarrassed for him at times , walking around with his sleeves rolled up for no purpose whatsoever. I really hope the back benchers vote against him and his cuts , as you say his future is lined up there’s isn’t
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