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I've just sent an email to Grahame Morris, thanking him for keeping his word and adding his name to the Reasoned Amendment list. Also sent him encouragement as well.
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Do you think we still have a chance?
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Thank you MW .
yes I’m still reading of people claiming it’s a money bill . Not on here but elsewhere.
I hope he does accept kemi offer , I wouldn’t trust him at all .
My brain fogs so bad but I’m trying to work out what an amendment will do . If the speaker accepts the amendment what happens to the bill ?0 -
Next Tuesday was the date of the Second Reading. 1st July. Nothing has changed.
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This that is happening is good news but . . . is it really its looking more and more likely every day that passes that reform is going to win the next GE labour want to reduce the bill by 5 billion a year reform want to reduce it by 15 billion if not get rid of welfare all together we really need to think what would be the best in the long run
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But someone posted this .
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How could that even be legal ?
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I think it's a reference to the amendment. If it is accepted by the speaker and passed by the House there won't be votes on the Bill at the Second Reading on 1st July.
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So if the speaker accepts it , the Labour MPs vote on it . If there’s enough Starmer supporters it goes for the vote for all MPs ?
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If the Speaker accepts the ammendment to the Bill the whole House votes on the ammendment. If it passes the Bill itself cannot be voted on. If the Speaker rejects the ammendment or the House votes it down there will be the usual vote at the end of the Second Reading. All this happens on 1st July.
On X it's mooted that 129 or 131 Labour MPs are putting their names to the ammendment.
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But if Starmer has enough MPs voting for the bill including Tory’s then the same will vote the amendment down. I don’t see the point of it then or am I missing something as I don’t know much about it
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You are not missing anything. I think Labour rebels have been counting on Tory support. Tonight demonstrated how much is up to Kemi B. The Second Reading is a week away. A long time. Perhaps there will be more names coming forward against the cuts.
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Kind of looks like we are doomed
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Thank you zipz,
The amendment doesn’t seem so important then 🤷♀️
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Is there any chance of stopping it completely?
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I don't think so not now
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>get rid of welfare all together
Lol. Any disabled person who unironically supports that is signing their own death warrant.
Social security is what keeps disabled people alive (not to mention a functioning society).
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who says they support getting rid of welfare i certainly do not want reform in nowhere did i mention that i want rid of welfare what i said was its looking likely that reform might win the next general election and they want to cut welfare by 15 billion or get rid of it all together
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Pippa Crerar - The Guardian X page recently posted this.
Welfare Rebellion latest:-
123 Labour MPs have now signed the rebel amendment, up from 108 (plus 11 opposition MPs). I'm told that one MP has withdrawn their name, while 16 new MPs have added theirs, despite attempts by cabinet ministers & whips to win them over.Next week's vote remains big problem for Starmer.
All the 11 MPs from opposition parties who have signed the rebel amendement are from Northern Ireland.Another rebel tells me the amendment has yet more supporters who have decided not to sign, meaning the scale of the rebellion could be even larger.
p.s. My MP came good.👍️
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