Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.
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I think it wont matter, I expect the 2 point descriptors today to not exist on the new assessment.
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It looks like everyone who is being reassessed from November 2026 will be assessed under the 4 point descriptor. So everyone will be treated the same new/existing claimants. I believe this Green Paper consultation has been a load of nonsense. The government have done this so it looks like they are doing the right thing by disabled people.
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Kendall REALLY detests disabled people.
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if rebels don’t stop this bill, I don’t think Liebour will get more than 200 seats in the next election.
They are imploding
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I clearly heard her say existing claimants will be on the old system. However she specifically said 2026. So still unclear what happens post timms review.
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We need to campaign write to MPs re 4 pint reassessment, and challenge it in the courts if at all possible.
I am going to take advice from Leeds Welfare Rights, and CAB Mind Legal unit and 5 other pro bono legal firms.
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Somebody asked why cant PM Chancellor plus DWP misters be taken to court for incitement to hatred based on protected characteristics of disability.
Incitement to any form of hatred (anti LGBT, disability, race) has to use violent threatening language.
So, we need to keep campaigning writing to media outlining our case, and write to MPs, mass lobbies of Parliament etc., all the way up to the next general election in an alliance of disabled peoples organisations, to reverse these changes, if they are passed this time, and WE CAN, there are 11 million pensioners often with severe complex disabilities and 16million disabled people - if we ally with pensioners groups we can win.
And consult lawyers and barristers re course of legal redress of injustices/ grievances.
We need to have the determination of Mandela, the patience of Gandhi and the compassion and wisdom of Buddha.
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Kendall is all over the place, presenting all the smoke and mirrors available to her.
She's not actively listening. She's hearing trigger words, and repeating points of rhetoric based on those words.
The general consensus of those speaking out is: Pull this abberation of a bill, and come back with a properly consulted version.
They are desperate to get this through as a money bill to avoid appropriate scrutiny. Once it is in they can 'amend' it at will without challenge.
These MPs are being gaslit.
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Is this still being voted on tomorrow ?
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Yes have you written emailed your MP
Even at this late stage.
It is still worth doing - to get even more MPs to vote against the bill.
Activism is the antidote to despair [and anxiety, trauma, depression] Joan Boaz
Please Google find your MP.
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Unless Guy Fawkes rocks up with a more effective method than last time, they are determined to push this through via a vote where MPs are being directed to vote for a 'pig in a poke' legislation.
Straight from the Project 2025 playbook being enacted in the US.
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Sky News:-
Could claimants move between tiers?
But Labour's Vicky Foxcroft - who quit as a government whip over the reforms - asks: "If claimants request a reassessment because of worsening health conditions, will they be assessed on the current criteria or new eligibility criteria?"
Kendall says existing claimants will "remain under the new rules unless they request a reassessment until November 2026".
At that point onwards, "there will be that four-point minimum", she adds.
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so they’ve been messed around d then. I wonder how the rebels are gonna to react
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still have no idea if when reviewed I n 2027 I will be on the new 4 point system or not.
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I predict that there's worse to come down the line. I don't think anyone can take what the government says in good faith.
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Yes wrote to my mp, she was on the original list before the concession, so not sure how she’s voting now as I haven’t seen a new list of MPs opposing
it seems even a change of address could mean you’re reassessed under the 4 point rule
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indeed, they have left many points/definitions uncleared on purpose
Only hope, rebels to vote against it tomorrow.
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So do I understand this right that the concessions of protection only last until Nov 2026 regardless? So they were not concessions at all, as we all predicted.
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A change of address wouldn’t usually change anything. I moved address and pip stayed the same as did legacy esa . Problem is there seems to be no details such as who fits the scc ? I’ve 200,00 yet there are many more of us with conditions with no cure or treatment. And MPs happy to vote without full facts. Meg hillier got our hopes up for votes that’s what I think
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