Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.
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Posted elsewhere now.
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8 MP's from Northern Ireland have confirmed they are voting 'No' tomorrow. Claire Hanna, Sorcha Eastwood, Robin Swann, Jim Shannon, Sammy Wilson, Alex Easton, Colum Eastwood, Jim Allister.
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Jim Allister is of the TUV, a party which is like the Northern Irish branch of Reform/Farage, now if Conservative orientated parties like the DUP/TUV are against cuts then why can't Reform and the Tories be more supportive of disabled people?
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Wouldn't it be great if they were in agreement like this all the time. We would be in a better place.😉
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Because they haven't made any concessions in regards to LCWRA, I think it means incomes protected for some years(for existing claimants) and by then there might be more transitional support before you lose it, if you can't claim daily living component of PIP.
What a mess!
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is there going to be a three tier system then once the new pip assessment comes along?
Will existing PIP claimants go through this new assessment? And if so, will they be under the same rules as claimants from 2027?
Cause existing claimants don’t go by the 4 point rule, and it says on the new document:
- All existing PIP recipients will remain on the current system and the proposed changes to eligibility as part of the bill will only apply to new claims from November 2026.
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All of this is a complete chaotic disaster.
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With no clarification on LCWRA at all, I'm still at a loss as to whether it's best to apply for PIP now or just wait and see what happens. This is chaos.
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Andrew Marr says he expects 50-70 rebels to vote against the government tomorrow, which means Starmer/Kendall/Reeves et all squeak out a win. (LBC)
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I'd just apply for it now I don't there'd be anything to lose, it's what I'm going to do.
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The destination they're moving towards clearly shows you'll be better protected on PIP, if you qualify. I would arrange an interview at your local Citizens Advice Bureau, and make clear it's about PIP/benefits. They usually have an expert who can advise you and help you prepare a thoroughly detailed application.
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That's not including the tories though
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I’d do the same , just apply now
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I think we need 83 labour with the Tory’s
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Correct. 83 Labour rebels are needed if every other MP outside Labour votes against the bill. Marr says he understands the government have secured enough votes to win.
He says 50ish who will definitely vote against.
20 who are wavering.
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Hi, Im desperate to find out if income related ESA will be affected by tomorrow's bill. It should pass and if it does, will I be protected as health element of universal credit should be.
They want me to migrate across to universal credit but if I am protected while on the ESA, I would rather wait for a while.
Does anyone know please.
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